White Mountain Apache- be aware

Save yourself some $ and go unguided and do all the work and hunting yourself for crying out loud. I get so tired of guys complaining about outfitters because they are too lazy and not tough enough to handle the elkwoods without someone else doing it for them. I don’t know why people think that just because you hire an outfitter that success is guaranteed. You still have to give the guide something to work with…….
 
Save yourself some $ and go unguided and do all the work and hunting yourself for crying out loud. I get so tired of guys complaining about outfitters because they are too lazy and not tough enough to handle the elkwoods without someone else doing it for them. I don’t know why people think that just because you hire an outfitter that success is guaranteed. You still have to give the guide something to work with…….
I think a guide makes sense to learn, to use stock, new state/country, required or help with packing out.
 
Wow $260,000+ in hunts!
OP how do you want the outfitter to make it up to you?
I hope it’s not a free hunt. That would be the last thing I would want from them after not seeing a single animal that can be harvested among 14 to 16 hunters. Let alone almost getting killed by their negligence.
There was plenty of red flags that should have been seen when booking this hunt in the first place.
 
I think a guide makes sense to learn, to use stock, new state/country, required or help with packing out.
I have nothing against guides or any who use them. It’s the guys who don’t give the guides anything to work with then go on the forums and piss and moan. It’s still hunting and the hunter has to be prepared and do his part. For all I know, this guy is fat, out of shape and couldn’t keep up. And probably had a bad attitude with the guide and thinks using a guide is a guarantee on top of that. That’s not on the guide………..
 
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