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....fair enough....you packing the lead sled though....All I know is if you’re too lazy to haul a simple lightweight folding shooting bench up the mountain… I’m too lazy to haul your tip money in my wallet!
....fair enough....you packing the lead sled though....All I know is if you’re too lazy to haul a simple lightweight folding shooting bench up the mountain… I’m too lazy to haul your tip money in my wallet!
From now on don't hire scabs. No way this kind of stuff flies with a legit outfit.Tips for my guide from my archery elk hunt this year:
-Take less breaks to hit the one-hitter
-Wait more than 5 minutes after meeting the client to make a Brokeback Mountain joke at the client’s expense
-Be able to keep up with the client
-One mountain house a day is not enough food
-Do not ask your client for water after you made him pack in 4 days of water
-Don’t tell your client to stand behind trees when calling an elk in
-No one cares about your baby mama
-Kill an elk yourself before guiding for elk
-Take more notes when I call an elk in
-Don’t sit in the middle of a meadow to glass
-You don’t actually have to sit in camp all day because of “thermals”
I think that’s all
But in reality, I mainly agree with the OP. Most clients suck, and I am sure it can be a frustrating profession.
...doesn't matter to us. Although if someone is within tge criteria you mentioned, I would suggest bringing a camera and rifle.....lol@Deadfall I’ve never done a guided hunt but is there a similarity with a guided fishing trip? For example if you aren’t serious (skill and physical shape can vary) then you should just book a sightseeing trip and leave the game for those who want it?
Mmmm....at start of hunt probably true....on flip side, I've had lots and lots of guys push harder then they want to because of how much effort we (staff) puts out. I know this is true, because clients tell me so.For the Moderator's and Staff Members: understand that first the hunter, and client, is never concerned with the expectations of their guide. They are paying for a service and what they get out of it is up to them.
A guide or outfitter that complains the client should've done this or the client should've done that likely isn't the clients fault. It's clearly a shortfall in communicating with the client what their expectation was and what they're wanting out of their hunt. If that happened, then maybe there's something to complain about. Otherwise, it's moot point.
I find it interesting that people are giving you so much grief for your sentiments. I concur with most everything you said.Another year come and gone. Some observations for those looking at guided hunts in the future.
BE in the best possible shape you can be in!
It boggles my mind that guys spend several thousand dollars on a hunt then show up and can't walk 1/2 mile. Or shoot 300 yards (accurately)
BE proficient with your weapon!
Knocking the dust off a rifle 2 weeks before your hunt and pounding half box of shells through at 100 yards is not being proficient.
All outfitters I've heard of, harp on 2 things. Being in shape and being proficient with weapon.
If hunting western big game isn't tough enough, neglecting these 2 things almost guarantees a no harvest.
Most issues I see are with shooting fundamentals.
Buy a 22 that is inexpensive and practice shooting from prone, kneeling, off hand and some version of shooting off a tree branch. Guides are not packing a shooting bench and lead sled around mountains.
Being in decent shape does not mean being a marathon runner. However, you should realistically be able to travel from a horse....300 yards up a hill to sit....
The more out of shape you are the further you need to be able to shoot. Opposite of that. Better shape shoot less far.....However, being both is optimal.
It's very frustrating when guys show up with a borrowed rifle they have NEVER shot. Refuse to shoot it before climbing on a horse...SMH...
It's getting a bit worse every year.....
Most hunts around the country are booked 2 years in advance if not longer.
Don't show up for a elk (or bigger game) hunt with a rifle smaller then 300 win mag. Especially if it's your first time hunting something in that size class, in rough terrain at altitudes you are nor use too.
Will smaller calibers do the job...Absolutely. Mountains wind people that are not use to it. The adrelin, fatigue and frustration is not anything you can replicate outside the mountains.
Why chance hitting a bull in shoulder at 300 yards with a .308 and not finding it? When the 300 WM. Would have dropped him.
If you have to ask if your rifle is big enough.....It is not...lol...
Sorry bit I'm not toting a 300WM anywhere for anything. My 300wsm is plenty of bullet for any Wyoming game.
Proper shot placement trumps caliber. Some guy flinching with a 300WM because an outfitter told him he had to shoot it is not doing the prey any favors.
For the Moderator's and Staff Members: understand that first the hunter, and client, is never concerned with the expectations of their guide. They are paying for a service and what they get out of it is up to them.
A guide or outfitter that complains the client should've done this or the client should've done that likely isn't the clients fault. It's clearly a shortfall in communicating with the client what their expectation was and what they're wanting out of their hunt. If that happened, then maybe there's something to complain about. Otherwise, it's moot point.
Spot on. This is a great idea!Do any of you send out some kind of fitness recommendation to clients or minimum proficiencies with their rifle? Some people are a little delusional about what they are capable of. Maybe if it was spelled out they might get a wakeup call. I've never been on a guided hunt so I'm just curious. I just looked up some random outfitter and all their website says is a "Rigorous and challenging hunt, not for the faint of heart".
Tips for my guide from my archery elk hunt this year:
-Take less breaks to hit the one-hitter
-Wait more than 5 minutes after meeting the client to make a Brokeback Mountain joke at the client’s expense
-Be able to keep up with the client
-One mountain house a day is not enough food
-Do not ask your client for water after you made him pack in 4 days of water
-Don’t tell your client to stand behind trees when calling an elk in
-No one cares about your baby mama
-Kill an elk yourself before guiding for elk
-Take more notes when I call an elk in
-Don’t sit in the middle of a meadow to glass
-You don’t actually have to sit in camp all day because of “thermals”
I think that’s all
But in reality, I mainly agree with the OP. Most clients suck, and I am sure it can be a frustrating profession.
Do any of you send out some kind of fitness recommendation to clients or minimum proficiencies with their rifle? Some people are a little delusional about what they are capable of. Maybe if it was spelled out they might get a wakeup call. I've never been on a guided hunt so I'm just curious. I just looked up some random outfitter and all their website says is a "Rigorous and challenging hunt, not for the faint of heart".
Do it! I’d be all ears.I assume you refer to bows. That is an entirely different and equally complex conversation for another time...if anyone wants to hear more ramblings from a moron about bows. I'll be glad to start a new thread....lol...