mfsights257
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Why is the game warden in your house, looking into your freezer?
well the same laws apply to search and seizure in any house. If they have a warrant or consent they will search.Why is the game warden in your house, looking into your freezer?
you are correct. PA is one of the few states that defines the possession limit to specifically limit it to what you are allowed in the field...like on an extended camping trip. once they are in the freezer at a permanent residence it does not matter.From PA........... Limit of 1 antlered deer per year, and 1 antlerless deer with each valid antlerless license or permit.
Also from Reg.....Field Possession Limit: It is unlawful on the opening day of a hunting season to 1) possess more than the daily limit; 2) after the second day possess more game than may be legally taken in three days. A field possession limit is the maximum number of legally taken wildlife of a species that a person may legally posses or transport between the place of taking and the person's permanent place of residence.
That's how a possession limit is defined in PA
We have a 6 a day / 18 in possession for squirrels for example but you can have 1000 in your freezer.
Here you are wrong and could not be more wrong. F&W laws are Prima Facie laws. So just the act of hunting or fishing allows for search and seizure without consent. When a warden asks you if he/she can search you, your vehicle, ice chest, they are doing it either out or courtesy, or looking for a reaction. The simple reason for this is that animals can not communicate a crime has been committed, like in human on human crimes where you generally have a complainant. As such, if someone reports that say John has to many XYZ in his freezer, and the report is believable, a warden does not need a warrant to search.well the same laws apply to search and seizure in any house. If they have a warrant or consent they will search.
not is the house. wanna bet? your house is very much protected from that search and seizure without warrant. hunting and fishing gear in plain view in a vehicle is one thing. Not the house though. (yes i do have a background in this btw) Wardens cannot go into a house or any living quarters without consent or a warrant. That is well established law.Here you are wrong and could not be more wrong. F&W laws are Prima Facie laws. So just the act of hunting or fishing allows for search and seizure without consent. When a warden asks you if he/she can search you, your vehicle, ice chest, they are doing it either out or courtesy, or looking for a reaction. The simple reason for this is that animals can not communicate a crime has been committed, like in human on human crimes where you generally have a complainant. As such, if someone reports that say John has to many XYZ in his freezer, and the report is believable, a warden does not need a warrant to search.
The warden isn't writing how many birds you taken to help you take more birds, he's doing it to tally how many birds you've taken to track your limits.
Lets say that you take 6 ducks per day (bag limit) for three consecutive days and you've reached your possession limit in South Dakota.
The warden writes down how many ducks you've taken each day so he knows that you haven't exceeded the daily limit or the possession limit.
But then you go to another state on the fourth day and you take 6 more ducks and then come home.
If the warden checks your freezer then you're going to get a citation for exceeding the possession limit. It doesn't matter where you got those ducks, just because they came from out of state it doesn't matter, you still have more than the possession limit.
That is correct and same with ducks but from my understanding simply cut them up and freezing does not count as "processed" legally. I'm not sure even grinding does either. Legally I believe processing means makeing them into something. Either a meal or some sort of sausage type product. For example I have been told before when we used to hunt ND for ducks that just grinding ducks would still count as our possession limit but if we took them to a butcher shop and has sausage made that doesn't. Seems to be lots of gray areaIn South Dakota once they are processed the game in question no longer counts against your possession limit. They just removed the possession limit for fish this year
That is correct and same with ducks but from my understanding simply cut them up and freezing does not count as "processed" legally. I'm not sure even grinding does either. Legally I believe processing means makeing them into something. Either a meal or some sort of sausage type product. For example I have been told before when we used to hunt ND for ducks that just grinding ducks would still count as our possession limit but if we took them to a butcher shop and has sausage made that doesn't. Seems to be lots of gray area