Port Strike

[KsRancher]

Infer what you want from it I guess. If I were building a commercial building where I live I would choose union labor based on the quality and production rates I've seen from both in my area.

I imagine it matters where you are at what the job is. But around me if you show up at a job site with union labor it's absolutely pitiful. All you hear is "thats so and so job", "I only run the excavator", "you will have to wait until after break to get unloaded". Meanwhile us non union guys are all about getting stuff done and moving on with life. I am not a fan of the "not my job" comment.

 

[JFK]

No part of this seems like collective bargaining. Daring them to fire everyone and start over is nothing more than legal extortion.

Employees request higher pay or they will, at the very worst, disrupt work, equals legal extortion in your words.

So if an employer tells employees that if they don’t like working conditions they can quit and start over, that equals what?

It’s the same thing. No one’s hands are clean. No side is perfect and there are definitely cases of abuse on both sides, but if I’m speaking generally, I’ll side with the guy actually doing the work every single time.

 

[TandKHunting]

Don’t worry. This will all be resolved with Kamala’s opportunity economy. No idea what it actually entails; nobody does, but I’m sure it will fix everything.

 

[isItFallYet]

I’m sure only union members do that

Meanwhile the union member on here has been on Rokslide while at work….

Yes, you definitely need a raise!

 

[Elkangle]

Dont forget the partys involved....the union labor, The customer, and the shipping co... the customer is whose ever goods are being shipped...the union is just the local community that gave up its waterfront in excahnge for the work.. the shipping co is the shit bags living in the shadows that nobody ever talks about.

If you want to supprt foriegn countrys and export american dollar off the backs of small business and communities then by all means have at it.

just dont complain when your kid has to travel across the country to find work because everyone thought saving jobs wasnt imoprtant.

With that said...both sides are playing with fire..the wages need to compete with the other trades in order to attract a quality work force with the diverse skills required to move anything and everything...you dont want shit bags moving the countrys cargo just like you dont want minimum qualified people building airplanes and maybe you guys havent noticed but both examples seem to be happening alot. Being cheap on labor doesnt save money in this sector in the long run

 

[HoneyDew]

500 million dollar bonus?! The disregard for common folk is just getting completely out of hand. You only get a bonus of that size and proportion if you've been compromised and have cut some throats here and there along the way. Makes you wonder.

I looked because that number seems ridiculous. Most I can see is $6million total compensation for 2023. Not sure where he got that number.

 

[HoneyDew]

The short answer is we have always cost 5% of the ship lines total cost. We are now 1.5%. The CEO of maersk received a 500 million dollar Christmas bonus last year lol. Yes we want a 50% increase but that’s over an 8 year period, not right off the top. To be transparent both sides have been unreasonable

Can you share where you got that number? Genuinely curious. Most I can find is $6million total compensation for 2023.

 

[ozyclint]

Ag has been improving with automation quickly and it has been embraced by those that can afford it. Efficiency equals $$ for Ag.

Ag has to improve efficiency to survive. Farmers are price takers they don't get to pass on costs.


If a pay rise worked to help with living costs then it would have already worked.
My Grandad got payed less per month than what get per week.