Painless load development (mine)

[Ishootgunssometimes]

I want to see someone do a test to see if it's possible to not trim at all through 5-7 reloads. That's about how many I get before trashing it.

Trim it super short, or short enough to not have to trim for 5 reloads. Does the POI change from that first load to last? If not... I'd 100% do it.

Then my process would be:
Lube 25 cases in a ziploc baggie
Size
Prime
Load with powder thrower
Wash lube off in tub of soapy water

I don't think it could get any faster than that unless I bought a progressive press to do the priming, powder, and bullet in one handle pull

I load for 7 saum and have put about 6-7 shots on my brass. I never trimmed it, only because I use the Little Crow Gunworks WFT2 trimmer and I only recently bought the appropriate insert for 7 saum.

Can’t say I’ve noticed anything going haywire with my loads other than ES and SD getting larger. My range goes to 500 yd so I can’t say I’ve really noticed anything off with my loads. But mentally I’d feel better if I knew my SD were consistent.

I don’t particularly have distain for any part of reloading.

 

[flyfisher117]

23.5gr of IMR 8208 loaded at 2.26” coal. I have yet to see a single Tikka (150+) that doesn’t shoot it well, nor any other good 223 that doesn’t shoot it well.

Awesome thanks. That’s about what I’m shooting with the SMK so that will be nice.

 

[Formidilosus]

I didn't know you could leave that stuff on after sizing. I will be getting some.

I throw them all on a towel after sizing, then just quick and touch wipe them all around with the towel- plenty is still left on.

I can't make it to 5 firings with my 243 brass without trimming. I think I generally start it 0.020 short of max. Perhaps I'll cut the virgin cases shorter and see.

Yeah, 243 is one that needs trimmed.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I didn't know you could leave that stuff on after sizing. I will be getting some.

I throw it all on a soft cloth and then stick a piece of paper towel or another soft cloth on top, then roll the loaded cartridges back and forth a few times.

 

[philcox]

I don’t own a trimmer or tumbler. Granted most of what I shoot enough to worry about trimming, are cases that don’t really stretch- but, I loose them by 5-6 firings anyways. I think the most reloads I have on brass right now is the 6XC and some of those are 6-8 firings.

So, do you just sample a portion of the Brass to see if at Max length, or you just know that you get about 5 if you start at min length. Reason I am asking, is it seems that my 65CM (RCBS FL Dies) I am 1.910 then after 1 resize I am mid, and after 2nd firing I am 1.92X and need to trim. Hence my confusion on this. Maybe my calipers are crap, or I am measuring wrong ... hmmmm

 

[philcox]

I don’t own a trimmer or tumbler. Granted most of what I shoot enough to worry about trimming, are cases that don’t really stretch- but, I loose them by 5-6 firings anyways. I think the most reloads I have on brass right now is the 6XC and some of those are 6-8 firings.

[mention]Formidilosus [/mention]are 223, 6CM, 6.5CM in the “cases that don’t really stretch” category? Do the resizing die have any material effect?


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[Bluumoon]

Haha. That’s been no issue with modern shaped cases. I am on 6-8 loadings of 250pcs of 6XC brass.





Or just spray with Hornady one shot, size and deprime, prime, dump powder, seat bullet.

I’m on my 3rd set of .223 sizing dies. I like to think I’m generous w the one shot…

Contemplating tumbling again.

 

[Bluumoon]

[mention]Formidilosus [/mention]are 223, 6CM, 6.5CM in the “cases that don’t really stretch” category? Do the resizing die have any material effect?


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In my limited experience Hornady 6CM brass falls into the category of needing trimmed after initial factory load is shot. My quality 6CM brass seems to be fine after a few reloads.