Outfitters banning bergers?!

[sndmn11]

The “hunting” Bergers are just the original think jacket .

*Thin*?

 

[Formidilosus]

*Thin*?

Yes. Thank you, and edited.

Stupid autocorrect.

 

[Marshfly]

I think it is expecting something that won't happen. I quoted someone who said they saw "pinholes" with them and seemed to write in a disappointed manner. They break apart and cause a lot of damage; anything that exits will be a tiny hole that probably won't be noticed or assumed to be a bullet that didn't expand. If I am expecting to catch an intact mushroomed slug anything else is probably viewed as a failure despite a dead something. When folks see that "failure" and then remember they or someone they knew didn't recover an animal at some point with that bullet, they assume that the bullet sucked rather than the shot placement.

I think this is huge. I see this all the time on Facebook groups. People kill (kill!) stuff with ELD-Xs then complain because they didn't make a pretty mushroom like a Barnes TTSX at 50 yards. Then say they will never use them again because they didn't work. All the while talking about an animal that virtually dropped in its tracks. WTF?! The lack of critical reasoning skills in the general populace today is appalling.

 

[jfk69]

I think this is huge. I see this all the time on Facebook groups. People kill (kill!) stuff with ELD-Xs then complain because they didn't make a pretty mushroom like a Barnes TTSX at 50 yards. Then say they will never use them again because they didn't work. All the while talking about an animal that virtually dropped in its tracks. WTF?! The lack of critical reasoning skills in the general populace today is appalling.

Exactly. This always cracks me up. “I wasn’t impressed with how the bullet performed, there was core/jacket separation, we didn’t find much of the bullet” as we field dressed the animal. Seriously? WTF? Just a sign of group think and our society these days.

 

[Billy Goat]

Yeah but hit a deer below the knee it still won’t kill him

Probably keep them bleeding tho....



Ah damn, you probably ain't been around long enough to get that.

 

[Gstew1930]

The way I look at it, it’s the guides job to get you infront of your target animal. Once you’re on the rifle then it’s up to you. I’m taking the bullet that gives me the most confidence, typically that’s a Berger. If they wouldn’t let me then I’d find a different outfitter

 

[FowlMouthA400]

Probably keep them bleeding tho....



Ah damn, you probably ain't been around long enough to get that.

Yeah I’m a noob

 

[Billy Goat]

Yeah I’m a noob

Keep you busy a minute or 2.

Thread 'Aram Von Benedikt' https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/aram-von-benedikt.332352/

 

[FowlMouthA400]

Keep you busy a minute or 2.

Thread 'Aram Von Benedikt' https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/aram-von-benedikt.332352/

Ahh yeah I know about this story but damn 100 pages…deff not gonna check all of them

 

[Billy Goat]

Ahh yeah I know about this story but damn 100 pages…deff not gonna check all of them

Missing out.

Lotta meme work in there.

 

[FowlMouthA400]

Missing out.

Lotta meme work in there.

You right them some good ones…I’ve actually had this happen to me before….

 

[Billy Goat]

You right them some good ones…I’ve actually had this happen to me before….

I know guys who lost elk in archery season to others.


It's a jungle out there, goes to the first who is sitting on them, mostly.

 

[jimh406]

You can kill game with anything, but it's up to the outfitter to decide what their bar is. It's hard to fault their experience. If you don't like it, pick an outfitter you agree with.

 

[rookieforever33]

He wasnt lying after a page or 2 you've got the story. Speed scrolling for memes after that is worth the time.

Missing out.

Lotta meme work in there.

 

[Ucsdryder]

Yeah but hit a deer below the knee it still won’t kill him

Aram would disagree…

 

[Ucsdryder]

Probably keep them bleeding tho....



Ah damn, you probably ain't been around long enough to get that.

Bastard. Go milk a cow and give some of us others a chance!

 

[nphunter]

I have never lost an animal that was hit with 168gr VLD-H. Well over 50 animals from antelope to moose.

This has been my experience as well. 280AI, 168gr VLD. The rifle has killed probably 20 elk and deer combined plus a couple antelope and a lot of smaller critters. Almost every animal dropped in its tracks and we haven’t had to track a single animal. Shots from 20-400 yards on big game animals.

Almost all of these were killed by my wife and kids with a lot of less than perfect shots. We’ve dealt with a little bloodshot meat here and there from fragments but I’ll take that any day when they drop in their tracks.

 

[Montucky]

Fake News….this thread is entertaining cause there’s so much submitted evidence discrediting the original claim…..An Oufiitter would most likely never ban a specific bullet. They would simply have a hair or blood clause in their contract.

 

[X0311]

Fake News….this thread is entertaining cause there’s so much submitted evidence discrediting the original claim…..An Oufiitter would most likely never ban a specific bullet. They would simply have a hair or blood clause in their contract.

Not true. An outfitter I have used in Wyoming for elk bans Nosler ballistic tips (it is on their website). The weird thing is the guides use Bergers in their rifles. It didn't matter to me because my wife and I use accubonds for elk.

 

[FowlMouthA400]

Fake News….this thread is entertaining cause there’s so much submitted evidence discrediting the original claim…..An Oufiitter would most likely never ban a specific bullet. They would simply have a hair or blood clause in their contract.

See below….website is bottom of the picture