Online bird dog training courses?

[ericacymcdonald]

We picked up a Griffon pup this weekend and I am somewhat new to training, I do have an older wirehair but I got him as a 4 year old rescue. I while I have shot birds over him most of his training was just obedience and the birds stuff just happened. This time I got a pup and want a little more structure. Does anyone have experience with any of the online courses? There's a few but I'm leaning towards Talmage Smedleys courses as he seems successful in the pointer world but am having a hard time finding reviews of his training courses. Picture for cuteness
https://tsdoghouse.com/dog-training-courses/

 

[Russp]

I have utlized the standing stone kennels videos quite a bit. I like them. I utilized the youtube videos for free, but my buddy just got a GWP that he paid for the online videos/training program and really enjoyed it.

 

[ericacymcdonald]

I have utlized the standing stone kennels videos quite a bit. I like them. I utilized the youtube videos for free, but my buddy just got a GWP that he paid for the online videos/training program and really enjoyed it.

The standing stone videos are great, I just find myself skipping around too much

 

[Russp]

The standing stone videos are great, I just find myself skipping around too much

There online class is a step by step process that seems pretty good. Might be worth checking out. I think the cost is 500 dollars.

 

[JGood]

What are you trying to accomplish?

Retrieve? Honor? Obedience? Bird Intro? etc

 

[ericacymcdonald]

What are you trying to accomplish?

Retrieve? Honor? Obedience? Bird Intro? etc

All of the above, he's only 12 weeks old now, I was just looking for more structure opposed to just random training whoa today, recall tomorrow then force fetch the next day.

 

[JGood]

I dont know of anyone who does a really good complete online course. I have heard good things about Standing Stone.

Unfortunately some people are REALLY good at teaching certain things and not as good at teaching others.

The issue with online courses is they tend to teach you more about how to set up drills than they do how to read a dogs behavior and train around that behavior.

Griffons TEND to be pretty softer handling dogs. If that is your pup, positive reinforcement programs that utilize clickers and rewards are going to get you further than force breaking dogs.

The best books ive read have been the Smith books....though they certainly angle more towards harder headed dogs.


I have seen the best success with folks who find a good training club in their area with a good pro.

Where do you live? is there a local NVHDA chapter?

 

[ericacymcdonald]

I dont know of anyone who does a really good complete online course. I have heard good things about Standing Stone.

Unfortunately some people are REALLY good at teaching certain things and not as good at teaching others.

The issue with online courses is they tend to teach you more about how to set up drills than they do how to read a dogs behavior and train around that behavior.

Griffons TEND to be pretty softer handling dogs. If that is your pup, positive reinforcement programs that utilize clickers and rewards are going to get you further than force breaking dogs.

The best books ive read have been the Smith books....though they certainly angle more towards harder headed dogs.


I have seen the best success with folks who find a good training club in their area with a good pro.

Where do you live? is there a local NVHDA chapter?

I would LOVE to do NAVHDA and have joined but my closest chapter is 4+ hours away so I'll most likely not make it as often as if like.
I have already purchased the clicker and a book "how to help gundogs train themselves" which was written by a griffon owner.
The softer thing with griffons is why I was looking into Talmage Smedley opposed to standing stone and upland institute, I just can't find any reviews

 

[longhorn8011]

Check out Perfection Kennel [https://www.perfectionkennel.com]. They sell a video series and are always doing Facebook Lives with tons of free content to show you how to read dogs and apply their training principles. I've audited one of their training clinics before and was very impressed with how they are able to understand what the dogs are thinking and apply their tactics to different dog breeds and personalities. Outside of dog training, Jon and Jessica are also just good people.