OG .223?

[SC_Scout]

Now that the 6.5 has been produced, how about one dialed in for .223? Even better, how about one to compete with the AEM5 and Otter Creek Labs? Please

 

[Formidilosus]

Now that the 6.5 has been produced, how about one dialed in for .223?

I don’t know about that. But I could see a modified design.

Even better, how about one to compete with the AEM5 and Otter Creek Labs? Please

Already been done in a couple different versions. There is one rolling around on a MK12 somewhere currently- that one is an OG with a hub backend and a PRI OTB adapter, sounds very good. I believe their plan is to offer a true OPS 12th model clone with some improvements.

 

[Gstew1930]

I think this for sure needs to happen. Could just been a 223 predator?

 

[jonpall]

I'd buy one.

 

[SC_Scout]

I don’t know about that. But I could see a modified design.





Already been done in a couple different versions. There is one rolling around on a MK12 somewhere currently- that one is an OG with a hub backend and a PRI OTB adapter, sounds very good. I believe their plan is to offer a true OPS 12th model clone with some improvements.

That would be great! It seems like the MK12 cans tend to be sold out on a regular basis from the other manufacturers. I bet they could fill orders for at least one run pretty quick.
Thank you for the info

 

[benconfused]

I thought about this the other day as well. With the wave of 223 trainers being adopted, an OG223 (nice ring to it), would be awesome to have. Also wondering if that one can be 6' rather than 8 and still achieve DB requirements. @Unknown Suppressors

 

[wind gypsy]

a Ti and maybe not "full auto" AEM5'ish can would be pretty sweet. Might help push a guy to finally get a mk12. There was another Ti reflex can that hit the market recently but I dont recall it using the same mounting interface.

 

[MagnumHntr]

The predator that is in the roadmap sounds like it might be perfect for this!?

 

[Formidilosus]

a Ti and maybe not "full auto" AEM5'ish can would be pretty sweet. Might help push a guy to finally get a mk12.

There a misconception here- printed Ti cans failing is either total pressure, or heat (not technically, but functionally correct). If the suppressor can take enough total pressure to be safe for realistic uses, then it’s just heat. The general answer is to not exceed 800° F- about where the cans starts to turn red, or just before. Because of that, you could say all US suppressors (since they are all printed Ti) will be full auto rated suppressors; but a better way to say it is that they are durable enough and with the appropriate built in safety margin that normal rapid fire semi auto will not make the cans fail.

Making a can “full auto rated” does not make it heavier. Full auto rated can be 1x30 round mag, or it can 7x30 round mags- or anything in between or above.

Here is a 3oz 22LR can-



After 60 rounds near cyclic-

There was another Ti reflex can that hit the market recently but I dont recall it using the same mounting interface.

If you remember the name, I would appreciate the info. More OTB cans would be great.

 

[Formidilosus]

The predator that is in the roadmap sounds like it might be perfect for this!?

For a 223 can or for a MK12 can?

 

[wind gypsy]

If you remember the name, I would appreciate the info. More OTB cans would be great.

Thanks for the "full auto" designation input.

This one:
https://frontofriflesystems.com/product/mk12-mod-for/

Note that it's only rated to 12.5" for 556 and not "full auto" rated. Oddly, they dont say anything about heat limits. Seems a lot of these companies could do themselves a favor by laying out out exactly what kind of use/heat their products are designed around on their websites.

 

[MagnumHntr]

For a 223 can or for a MK12 can?

Both. If the podcast talk about the predator is true that it is quieter than the OG. And also, could you not remove the ops inc collar and install a 1/2-5/8 muzzle thread adapter a run the 2" reflex of the predator on a MK12 barrel?

 

[Formidilosus]

Thanks for the "full auto" designation input.

This one:
https://frontofriflesystems.com/product/mk12-mod-for/

Thank you. That’s interesting. It will be hard to top an AEM5 in performance on a 18” gas gun.

Note that it's only rated to 12.5" for 556 and not "full auto" rated. Oddly, they dont say anything about heat limits. Seems a lot of these companies could do themselves a favor by laying out out exactly what kind of use/heat their products are designed around on their websites.

They don’t know, it’s just copycat made up nonsense. Companies are not actually testing their products.

 

[Formidilosus]

Both. If the podcast talk about the predator is true that it is quieter than the OG. And also, could you not remove the ops inc collar and install a 1/2-5/8 muzzle thread adapter a run the 2" reflex of the predator on a MK12 barrel?

By and large, the MK12 people want a OPS INC 12th model clone- not a suppressor that works on a 18” AR.

You can run the cans on about anything they will fit-

14.5”

 

[ElPollo]

While I’m sure the MK12 can clone is cool, I think there is a bigger market out there for optimized direct thread 22-24 cal cans for bolt guns. I’m looking forward to seeing what US comes up with on their predator can.

 

[MagnumHntr]

By and large, the MK12 people want a OPS INC 12th model clone- not a suppressor that works on a 18” AR.

Wouldn't that just be the AEM5?

I think a lightweight and shorter can that fits a MK12 gas system would be awesome if it worked and sounded close to the ops inc.

 

[Formidilosus]

Wouldn't that just be the AEM5?

I think a lightweight and shorter can that fits a MK12 gas system would be awesome if it worked and sounded close to the ops inc.

Yes- but cloners (the largest market for that), want exactly that. If AEM5’s were in stock all the time, there wouldn’t be as much need. Although one that looks and performs like it, but it 11oz instead of 20oz or whatever would be good.

 

[SC_Scout]

Yes- but cloners (the largest market for that), want exactly that. If AEM5’s were in stock all the time, there wouldn’t be as much need. Although one that looks and performs like it, but it 11oz instead of 20oz or whatever would be good.

Like Otter Creek Labs OCM5. It is lighter, possibly a bit more quiet, looks like the AEM5, but also stays out of stock.

 

[omicron1792]

I love the ab a-10 for 5.56 use.

 

[Formidilosus]

Like Otter Creek Labs OCM5. It is lighter, possibly a bit more quiet, looks like the AEM5, but also stays out of stock.

The OCM5 is a good can and I have used it quite a bit. I’m not sure it is quieter- it may dB lower, I’m not sure. But in blind listening to both OCM5 and OPS 12th model, I generally have picked the OPS. That could be just sample size, but it has been what I have experienced with my ears at least. Again, both are really good and I wouldn’t hesitate at all on an OCM5.