Official Montana 2022 draw thread!

Did you draw and with how many preference points?

  • 0 points, successful

    Votes: 37 16.0%
  • 0 points, unsuccessful

    Votes: 15 6.5%
  • 1 point, successful

    Votes: 6 2.6%
  • 1 point, unsuccessful

    Votes: 36 15.6%
  • 2 points, successful

    Votes: 72 31.2%
  • 2 points, unsuccessful

    Votes: 15 6.5%
  • 3 points, successful

    Votes: 17 7.4%
  • 3 points, unsuccessful

    Votes: 5 2.2%
  • Resident/NA

    Votes: 28 12.1%

  • Total voters
    231

Scoot

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So the drawing is on Thursday. Will the results be posted on Thursday?
 

fatlander

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You folks with 2.5 and even 2 points are in probably in the 90%+ chance range of drawing so I wouldn't be too worried. Now me with 1 point yea, I'm worried but maybe I still have 10% chance. Most other types of drawings I'm in my chances of winning are infinitely smaller. One in a million you say, then I have a chance! :)

90%+ at 2 points, no way.


15k people didn’t draw with one point last year. Add that to the people that just didn’t jump in last year, and will this year with 2 or 3 points. Plus, every outfitted client can have two points from the jump.

No one is drawing with 1 point man.


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I purchased a preference point so I have a total of one. I applied for the big game combo with my target on next year, or even the year after.

I am planning this year's hunts on the assumption I will not draw Montana so it would actually be a bit distressing with hunt re scheduling if I did.
Same exact thought/plan.

I’m betting 40% at 0 points, 10% at 1, 75% at 2, and 100% at 3.

We’ll see shortly how close that guess is.
 

fatlander

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As messed up as this new system is, it won’t last long. The outfitter and guide association will have it changed again, as not all their clients will draw with 2 points this year. Can’t wait to see what they come up with next.


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I am guessing something similar at 2. However, if 2 points are less than 100%, 1 point has to be 0%.
Not sure how exactly FWP does their math, somehow last year one person didn’t draw with 2 points, yet 1 point was some 30ish percent or so. 3 points was obviously 100%.

I’m guessing somehow top points is always 100% and the remaining tags get divided up between 1 and 2 by a certain percentage. You could be right though.
 

fatlander

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Not sure how exactly FWP does their math, somehow last year one person didn’t draw with 2 points, yet 1 point was some 30ish percent or so. 3 points was obviously 100%.

I’m guessing somehow top points is always 100% and the remaining tags get divided up between 1 and 2 by a certain percentage. You could be right though.

It’s straight preference for 75% of the nonresident combos and 25% for those with ZERO points.

That one person that didn’t draw is a weird anomaly that shouldn’t have happened. FWP also doesn’t break out in between a bucket so maybe that one person that didn’t draw with two points applied with others that had less or no points and they were the only person with 2 points themselves that didn’t draw.


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Not sure how exactly FWP does their math, somehow last year one person didn’t draw with 2 points, yet 1 point was some 30ish percent or so. 3 points was obviously 100%.

I’m guessing somehow top points is always 100% and the remaining tags get divided up between 1 and 2 by a certain percentage. You could be right though.

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I can't say for sure what I said was right, but it sure drew a flurry of response anyway.:p
Apparently, there was a huge change in odds from 2020 to 2022. I drew in 2020 with just one point! I know not everyone drew that year with just one point but many did. I didn't follow the draw last year as I made no plans to hunt Elk for the first time in several years. It does appear that if by some miracle I do draw, a lot of folks will probably be pissed. ;)
 
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It’s straight preference for 75% of the nonresident combos and 25% for those with ZERO points.

That one person that didn’t draw is a weird anomaly that shouldn’t have happened. FWP also doesn’t break out in between a bucket so maybe that one person that didn’t draw with two points applied with others that had less or no points and they were the only person with 2 points themselves that didn’t draw.


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Not surprisingly I’m wrong and FWP either messed up or doesn’t know what they are doing.😂
 
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