NRL hunter

[Papster3418]

Hey guys, I had a few questions for yall. How many of you guys do NRL hunter? How many think it’s beneficial for real hunting? What are must have gear? Also I’m fairly new to long range shooting shot 500 yards consistently but rarely push past that, is this a good way to learn extending distances?


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[Justin Crossley]

Lots of us shoot in the NRL Hunter series.

Yes, it's very beneficial for real hunting related to long range.

Must have gear:
Rifle (Ideally a lighter hunting caliber like 6.5 CM)
A reliable scope that holds zero and adjusts correctly (I prefer the 4-32 NX8)
Bipod unless you prefer shooting off your pack (people who take it really seriously use MDT Triple Pull mostly)
Rangefinder (preferably rangefinding binos with balistics)
Something to write down your dope on (arm boards are best)
Tripod for glassing and shooting
A sandbag
A backpack to carry your gear

Probably more things I'm forgetting, but that's most of the must-haves, I think.

 

[Papster3418]

Lots of us shoot in the NRL Hunter series.

Yes, it's very beneficial for real hunting related to long range.

Must have gear:
Rifle (Ideally a lighter hunting caliber like 6.5 CM)
A reliable scope that holds zero and adjusts correctly (I prefer the 4-32 NX8)
Bipod unless you prefer shooting off your pack (people who take it really seriously use MDT Triple Pull mostly)
Rangefinder (preferably rangefinding binos with balistics)
Something to write down your dope on (arm boards are best)
Tripod for glassing and shooting
A sandbag
A backpack to carry your gear

Probably more things I'm forgetting, but that's most of the must-haves, I think.

Thank you for your input I appreciate it!


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[XLR]

Justin put a good list together for you! Dont get over the top on the gear for your first match. The nrl hunter community is pretty awesome and a lot of shooters will let you try some of their gear at the matches. For the bag Armageddon gear gamechanger pint sized sand filled. This is about the only bag you will need for any of these matches.

NRL Hunter is a great way to learn the long range shooting but more importantly it makes you very quick with your gear! Shoot skills division and show up ready to learn and have a great time!

 

[Papster3418]

Thank you for your input. Super excited to get going. Just ordered a chassis through West elk precision!


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[grfox92]

I think the training and practice for preparing for shooting the matches is where you will gain an advantage when hunting. A guy could never practice and go shoot matches and finish dead last. Not going to help your game. But becoming a disciplined shooter in order to be competitive will take you where you want to go.

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[Lawnboi]

Shooting under someone else’s rules adds pressure. Shooting under pressure, regardless of the rules makes for a better shooter in pressured situations like hunting.

 

[flyfisher117]

Shooting under someone else’s rules adds pressure. Shooting under pressure, regardless of the rules makes for a better shooter in pressured situations like hunting.

This.

I can go the range and set up my own targets and make my own rules and my brain will always try to game it in my favor. But going to a new range, shooting at a new target, under someone else’s rules will instantly make it harder and boost pressure.

IMHO work on your skills and use NRL hunter as a test to validate what you are doing/learning/practicing.

If you want to be competitive you’ll need every piece of gamer gear available. If you want to validate your skills shoot it with the gear you carry into the field and nothing else.

 

[wind gypsy]

If you want to be competitive you’ll need every piece of gamer gear available. If you want to validate your skills shoot it with the gear you carry into the field and nothing else.

Might be a little far? People have won 2 day matches overall with factory tikka CTRs.

 

[flyfisher117]

Might be a little far? People have won 2 day matches overall with factory tikka CTRs.

And how much extra gear and accessories? How much specialized gamer gear?

 

[wind gypsy]

And how much extra gear and accessories? How much specialized gamer gear?

A tripod, bipod, heavy fill bag, and RF binos i imagine. But even there if you gave the top guys a Gunwerks bipod and less than fully gamer tripod, and a decent shooting CTR or similar, they are still going to be competitive. Might miss a few points that they would have got with ideal gear.

Edit: I tried to find more details on Pynch and Ulmer gear that they've used in factory but nothing immediately popped up. In the search there was a match where morgun king won open light by 32 points. Cant tell me his bipod and tripod choices and heavy fill in his bags accounted for 32 points.

 

[JohnJohnson]

And how much extra gear and accessories? How much specialized gamer gear?

How much "gamer gear" used in NRL Hunter can't be used in most types of hunting?

 

[flyfisher117]

A tripod, bipod, heavy fill bag, and RF binos i imagine. But even there if you gave the top guys a Gunwerks bipod and less than fully gamer tripod, and a decent shooting CTR or similar, they are still going to be competitive. Might miss a few points that they would have got with ideal gear.

Comparing the top guys to average joes is silly. Of course they will do Ok. They are practicing weekly/daily/often.
Across the board how many shooters are rolling in with their standard off the shelf hunting rifle and basic gear and consistently shooting top of the leaderboard? Vs how many are consistently shooting top of the pack with $10,000 in gear.

How much "gamer gear" used in NRL Hunter can't be used in most types of hunting?

How many people are carrying 30 lbs in shooting accessories into the field?

 

[wind gypsy]

Comparing the top guys to average joes is silly. Of course they will do Ok. They are practicing weekly/daily/often.
Across the board how many shooters are rolling in with their standard off the shelf hunting rifle and basic gear and consistently shooting top of the leaderboard? Vs how many are consistently shooting top of the pack with $10,000 in gear.

You're making two arguments that are at odds with each other. You cant say "they care about being competitive so they practice a lot" and expect them to show up with junk. The people who take it serious are likely to outfit themselves accordingly.

If they can be competitive without completely optimized gear, that shows that its not the gear that makes one competitive. Of course it helps but the gap between middle of pack and top 3 is magnitudes more about the shooter than it is about the gear. There plenty of people with great gear that finish below mid pack too.

 

[flyfisher117]

You're making two arguments that are at odds with each other. You cant say "they care about being competitive so they practice a lot" and expect them to show up with junk.

If they can be competitive without completely optimized gear, that shows that its not the gear that makes one competitive. Of course it helps but the gap between middle of pack and top 3 is magnitudes more about the shooter than it is about the gear. There plenty of people with great gear that finish below mid pack too.

Then why don’t you quote my entire first post. Even in there I said practice is key.

But anywho if gear doesn’t matter, why aren’t they showing up with junk? Oh that’s right because in the end gear is the difference between a few points and a few dropped points is the different between 1-3 and 8th place.

 

[JohnJohnson]

Comparing the top guys to average joes is silly. Of course they will do Ok. They are practicing weekly/daily/often.
Across the board how many shooters are rolling in with their standard off the shelf hunting rifle and basic gear and consistently shooting top of the leaderboard? Vs how many are consistently shooting top of the pack with $10,000 in gear.

How many people are carrying 30 lbs in shooting accessories into the field?

What are examples of those accessories though? You can carry a spexlite filled Gamechanger of your preferred size in the field, for instance. I happen to carry a Pint sized one. I guess if the person is using a triple pull Ckye that could be a pound more than most want to carry while hunting. And maybe they'd use versions of their tripods that weigh like 2 pounds less. Those seem like relatively minor differences though so what else are they using that's impractical for real hunting?

 

[Nicodez]

As a mid pack NRL shooter I would say having the "gamer gear" does not make or break you. You need to know how to find targets, manage time and gear. Having all the gear you don't know how to use wont make you better. Decreasing your mistakes takes practice.

As far the as the original post: range finding binos with ballistic solutions would be the splurge

 

[Kurts86]

How many people are carrying 30 lbs in shooting accessories into the field?

You can be in the field with a shooting good tripod and a pint sized game changer with light fill for 5 lbs.

Guys may not carry a 2nd tripod into the field for tripod rear but their buddy often has another tripod.

Plenty of guys will take triple pull cyke pods hunting as well if the logistics allow it. Lots of guys used sitting height Harris bipods before NRL was an idea.

 

[flyfisher117]

What are examples of those accessories though? You can carry a spexlite filled Gamechanger of your preferred size in the field, for instance. I happen to carry a Pint sized one. I guess if the person is using a triple pull Ckye that could be a pound more than most want to carry while hunting. And maybe they'd use versions of their tripods that weigh like 2 pounds less. Those seem like relatively minor differences though so what else are they using that's impractical for real hunting?

That’s my point. They have $2200 LRF Binos, $1800 tripods, $500 in bags, $1000 in a bipod, $300 in gadgets and gizmos.

Yes people carry that hunting. Probably a fraction of a percentage of total hunters and shooters carry that shit. That’s still shit that will give them every competitive advantage over a guy rolling in with a pair of binos, a LRF, and a phone app. With his Harris and maybe a squeeze bag.

 

[wind gypsy]

Then why don’t you quote my entire first post. Even in there I said practice is key.

I didn't disagree with the part i didnt quote so i didn't include it.

But anywho if gear doesn’t matter, why aren’t they showing up with junk? Oh that’s right because in the end gear is the difference between a few points and a few dropped points is the different between 1-3 and 8th place.

We might be missing each other with context. Within a few points of top 3 is "competitive" to me. I wouldn't think someone getting into it is looking to show up and win. My point was if someone has a tripod that is suitable for shooting off, a bipod with legs extending longer than a 6-9" bench type model, a decent bag, and ideally RF binos, that gear would allow them to beat over half the field if they are capable without being a top level shooter.