no cam illegal

[archery bum]

I heard the wardens in Colorado have been handing out tickets and confiscating bows. The Mathews No Cam 85% letoff bows are illegal in Colorado. 80% letoff is max in Colorado, better check regs in the state you are hunting to make sure you are legal. Just a heads up.

Bum

 

[Colberjs]

Wowzers!!! That would suck. Never thought about it. Glad I don't have one.

 

[archery bum]

I think you can buy the no cam in different letoffs. So it's not the bow itself, just the optional 85% letoff that is illegal.

 

[jherald]

What? That is ridiculous. Sounds like a way for them to screw you out of your bow and money. I'm sure they will turn around and auction the bows off for a premium and make double their money on you. I don't shoot a Matthews bow and my let off isnt 85% but I disagree with them there, tickets is one thing but taking the bow is another.

 

[Aron Snyder]

I heard the wardens in Colorado have been handing out tickets and confiscating bows. The Mathews No Cam 85% letoff bows are illegal in Colorado. 80% letoff is max in Colorado, better check regs in the state you are hunting to make sure you are legal. Just a heads up.

Bum

Where/who did you hear that from?

 

[JG358]

I think you can buy the no cam in different letoffs. So it's not the bow itself, just the optional 85% letoff that is illegal.

They make them with 65%, 75% and 85% let off. I could maybe see them giving a fine but I doubt they are confiscating bows.

 

[Curtis C]

According to what I have read, they can only take possession of your equipment if it was used to kill an animal. If caught before taking an animal they will only ticket you with fine and license points.

Just make sure your modules are not black and you are fine.

 

[charvey9]

I haven't heard about that bow specifically, but I have heard folks talk about that CO regulation before.

 

[Shrek]

What's the point of the let off restriction ?

 

[roadrunner]

All they could do would take the portion that makes it not legal. All they can do is seize the module, not the entire bow. And I agree, they'd have to witness you first taking or attempting to take (i.e. shoot at) game with a setup with 85% let off mods.

 

[LostArra]

All they could do would take the portion that makes it not legal. All they can do is seize the module, not the entire bow. And I agree, they'd have to witness you first taking or attempting to take (i.e. shoot at) game with a setup with 85% let off mods.

Think so?
I would hate to be packing out elk quarters with an 85% let off bow strapped to my pack.

 

[mt100gr.]

What's the point of the let off restriction ?

The idea is that it gives hunters an "unfair" advantage in that they could hold at full draw longer. Thus eliminating the risk associated with all the movement, skill and timing of drawing at the correct time. If hold weight is really low, theoretically, a hunter could move through the woods at full draw and shoot very quickly. Much like a cocked and locked crossbow. In practice, yeah f'n right.

Much like the lighted nock debate/issue, I believe it comes down to a hunters personal ethic. I argue that lighted nocks do NOT encourage shooting in poor light nor do they give the advantage of shooting a "sighter". On the contrary, they do help hunters make responsible decisions when it comes to tracking as they shed light on POI. I haven't really thought much about the let off regs as 80% or less is kind of the norm.

it really comes down to which warden you run into and how you carry yourself as a hunter. Some people always have something to prove. I personally would not carry an 85% let off bow into the woods if the regs clearly state that 80% is the maximum allowed.

 

[rodney482]

I remember buying a Mathews Outback because you could switch it to 65% LO.. Oregon still had a 65% lO restriction.

Oh and the majority of todays compounds are 85% letoff.

 

[rodney482]

Oh and most 2 tracks are easily switched to less let off, takes about 2 seconds and 1 allen wrench.

 

[mt100gr.]

I remember buying a Mathews Outback because you could switch it to 65% LO.. Oregon still had a 65% lO restriction.

Oh and the majority of todays compounds are 85% letoff.

Interesting. Is that by spec sheet or actual measured efficiency? Your post got me thinking so I glanced through the Cabelas archery catalog and most are 70-80%. ...not that a bow maker would ever "stretch" the truth on paper to market bows.

Either way, it's.a.lot like the 28" minimum ATA requirements (maybe changed now) that the MT regs had /have. I sold a.lot of youth bows that didn't meet this requirement. Perhaps the state wildlife agencies need to talk with the bow manufacturers.

 

[tipsntails7]

Where/who did you hear that from?

The Internet id wager...

 

[rodney482]

In OR they used a handheld device that showed pounds and holding weight.

Interesting. Is that by spec sheet or actual measured efficiency? Your post got me thinking so I glanced through the Cabelas archery catalog and most are 70-80%. ...not that a bow maker would ever "stretch" the truth on paper to market bows.

Either way, it's.a.lot like the 28" minimum ATA requirements (maybe changed now) that the MT regs had /have. I sold a.lot of youth bows that didn't meet this requirement. Perhaps the state wildlife agencies need to talk with the bow manufacturers.

 

[MattB]

Oh and the majority of todays compounds are 85% letoff.

What do you base that on?

 

[camelcluch]

Any real fact of this found?

 

[Trial153]

Seems like a great use of time....