New Vortex Talon 10k RF Binos

[nm.otter]

Looks cool (slightly blue) to me as well, but nowhere near as blue as most LRF binos.

 

[Deadfall]

Tell us you’ve never looked through a pair without actually saying saying you’ve never looked through a pair…

I've owned every optic vortex had made. Currently have a razor. I have alot of experience with optics and use them ALOT.
Never again will anyone ever be able to sell me on vortex anything!!!
Current vortex optic is the 85mm razor spotter... it is the last

 

[Jack321]

I bought the new Vortex Ranger RF binos. $600 on Vets day deal. Couldnt pass it ip.

Ive used a buddies Fury's the last two summers in S. Dakota prairie dog hunting and had every intention of buying a set of Fury's for myself until I came across the Rangers.

For me Vortex was the only option because of their warranty, where they warranty both the optics and the electronics.

I am very impressed with my new Rangers. But I also like the Fury's. And if these Talons have Razor glass theyll be even better. But depending on the price.

My dad used my Rangers this past weekend when he forgot his binos and rangefinder deer hunting and liked them.

To me my Rangers are better, clearer, brighter, than a $300 bino and a separate $300 range finder.

I also have NL Pures and a Leupold Range finder as my main combo for hunting. And while my NL Pures are utter perfection. I have thought VERY hard about just using my Rnager RF binos as my primary bino. The ease of them and a rangefinder at the same time is just so tempting......

And i seriously think we've reached the point that even $100 binos are better and capable of what you need to see well past regular shooting hours.

In WY this year my brother bought some Vortex Crossfire HDs. And I was impressed!

3 years ago I was at Vortex's factory in Madison, WI for a visit and they had just launched their HD line of optics. Every one of them BLEW away the previous non-HD optics (minus their Razor line.)

Meaning, I'd rather prefer a Crossfire HD over a non-HD Viper.

I think optics and quality is just so far superior, that the law of diminishing returns for the $$ is borderline insane.

And again, I have NL Pures, (and love them as theyre damn near flawless) but again the quality of optics right now is so insane that $100 optics will get you buy. Were splitting hairs on so many things.

 

[Rock’N Tacos]

I bought the new Vortex Ranger RF binos. $600 on Vets day deal. Couldnt pass it ip.

Ive used a buddies Fury's the last two summers in S. Dakota prairie dog hunting and had every intention of buying a set of Fury's for myself until I came across the Rangers.

For me Vortex was the only option because of their warranty, where they warranty both the optics and the electronics.

I am very impressed with my new Rangers. But I also like the Fury's. And if these Talons have Razor glass theyll be even better. But depending on the price.

My dad used my Rangers this past weekend when he forgot his binos and rangefinder deer hunting and liked them.

To me my Rangers are better, clearer, brighter, than a $300 bino and a separate $300 range finder.

I also have NL Pures and a Leupold Range finder as my main combo for hunting. And while my NL Pures are utter perfection. I have thought VERY hard about just using my Rnager RF binos as my primary bino. The ease of them and a rangefinder at the same time is just so tempting......

And i seriously think we've reached the point that even $100 binos are better and capable of what you need to see well past regular shooting hours.

In WY this year my brother bought some Vortex Crossfire HDs. And I was impressed!

3 years ago I was at Vortex's factory in Madison, WI for a visit and they had just launched their HD line of optics. Every one of them BLEW away the previous non-HD optics (minus their Razor line.)

Meaning, I'd rather prefer a Crossfire HD over a non-HD Viper.

I think optics and quality is just so far superior, that the law of diminishing returns for the $$ is borderline insane.

And again, I have NL Pures, (and love them as theyre damn near flawless) but again the quality of optics right now is so insane that $100 optics will get you buy. Were splitting hairs on so many things.

The law of diminishing returns applies more to optics than almost anything else.

 

[Jack321]

The law of diminishing returns applies more to optics than almost anything else.

Very true. But theres just so much value in binos now that the optical quality are so superior to what was around 10 yrs ago.

 

[Huntin Fool]

I've owned every optic vortex had made. Currently have a razor. I have alot of experience with optics and use them ALOT.
Never again will anyone ever be able to sell me on vortex anything!!!
Current vortex optic is the 85mm razor spotter... it is the last

I highly doubt you’ve owned every optic vortex has made, that would be hundreds of different optics

 

[Deadfall]

I highly doubt you’ve owned every optic vortex has made, that would be hundreds of different optics

That's true. I've not owned any of their rifle scopes. I have owned tge binos and spotters. That's plenty for me

 

[Deadfall]

Started low end moved way up..

 

[JGRaider]

That's true. I've not owned any of their rifle scopes. I have owned tge binos and spotters. That's plenty for me

You're apparently a very slow learner then. I own several alphas, and the UHD can compete with all of them.

 

[Deadfall]

For what I've spent on vortex, Nixon, bushnell and the like since I was a kid. Could've owned a few swaro models.
That changes this year, never again...

 

[Deadfall]

Let's look at it another way.

If vortex is so awesome why is it the most sold glass on optic classifieds of this site.

Why is all glass compared to swaro. Why is all glass not compared to vortex? Swaro is the STANDARD.

I'm not saying there is not glass out there better then swaro. Lots of manufact i have little or no experience with. I just haven't seen anything. I'm done experimenting/looking!

I'll be having the standard thank you very much!

 

[nobody]

After that detour and back to the topic at hand…

Any vendors have an ETA on when these will be available?

 

[alexnelon]

Wow, Interesting. You are the only person I’ve ever heard describe the UHD as “pink” in any circle.

All of us in central Utah must all have the same level of color blindness, because these are consistent descriptors amongst the guys I have talked to and spent time with. Must be all those darn funeral potatoes and green jell-o.

Here's a few examples. Not mine personally because I no longer own any vortex products, but every side by side comparison will make it blatantly obvious. The razor glass produces an image that is 12-15% more red across the entire image (~20 points on a basic RGB-255 palette) than anything else. The glass is pink.

 

[nobody]

Here's a few examples. Not mine personally because I no longer own any vortex products, but every side by side comparison will make it blatantly obvious. The razor glass produces an image that is 12-15% more red across the entire image (~20 points on a basic RGB-255 palette) than anything else. The glass is pink.

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I know which videos these still shots are from (gear fool, huntin fool’s gear shop subsidiary). The top one is comparing the diamondback, viper, and Razor HD. Second one is comparing the same. And the bottom one is comparing mini spotting scopes. None of them reference the UHD’s that started this back and forth. And what I see more than anything is the fact that the diamondback and viper look flat and dull (with admittedly a slight purple hue to the HD’s), and the spotter comparison is between an HD spotter that retails for $1k and a kowa and Swaro that retail for over $2500. Very different markets they’re operating in, and for the price differential, the kowa and Swaro should be better.

We were discussing the razor UHD binoculars (Japan), not the standard Razor HD line (Chinese glass). There is a marked optical performance difference between the HD’s and UHD’s, and yes I’ve heard some people describe the standard HD’s as purple. But not the UHD’s that I was talking about. The UHD’s retail for close to $2k for the full size optics, and their performance reflects that, which is why so many of us are defending them as an alpha class optic. They’re very different from any other vortex offering, and not even in the same conversations as their other lines of optics.

As I understand now, the Talon HD binos in this thread have the razor HD glass, which would potentially have the purple hue depending on how they modify their coatings to be laser safe.

 

[nm.otter]

Hopefully the LRF blue cast will complement the HD pink cast.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Hopefully the LRF blue cast will complement the HD pink cast.

Hopefully 12x is atleast 1000 less then swaro el range with a better lazer.

 

[alexnelon]

I know which videos these still shots are from (gear fool, huntin fool’s gear shop subsidiary). The top one is comparing the diamondback, viper, and Razor HD. Second one is comparing the same. And the bottom one is comparing mini spotting scopes. None of them reference the UHD’s that started this back and forth. I’ve heard some people describe the standard HD’s as purple. But not the UHD’s that I was talking about.

As I understand now, the Talon HD binos in this thread have the razor HD glass, which would potentially have the purple hue depending on how they modify their coatings to be laser safe.

The UHD's are just as if not even more pink than the HD's. It's a constant across the whole razor line.

 

[nobody]

The UHD's are just as if not even more pink than the HD's. It's a constant across the whole razor line.

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I guess I must be an old guy with bad eyesight who can’t see my colors like you referenced above. I see dull grey/blue with the vipers, purple in the HD’s, and harder contrast and brighter colors in the UHD’s, with slight color fringing along the ridge top likely due to poor focusing on the part of the reviewer.

 

[JGRaider]

The UHD's are just as if not even more pink than the HD's. It's a constant across the whole razor line.

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You need to take some pics yourself instead of using poached internet pics. Anyone should know that images captured through a smart phone camera may not be an accurate representation, and rightfully so. I can make an image look however I want to doing that.

Also, I see references all the time of LRF/binos to regular high end glass. LRF/bino units have to have certain coatings to make the laser readouts easy to see, which is why at least one lens will be darker or have a certain hue to it as compared to binoculars. That's just the way it is no matter the brand.

 

[JGRaider]

Here's one of examples of the view through my 8x32 UHD