New Guy here. Considering straightwall wildcat.

[Chris in TN]

Not in Michigan, it must have an oal of 1.8 or less


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OP said he was in Ohio.

I’m not sure exactly how much body taper they allow but there’s really no such thing as a cartridge with truly parallel walls. I’m just not sure exactly how much taper they allow, or if it’s even codified anywhere.

 

[arrow179]

REM 700 action with 22” Douglas barrel chambered in .41 Great Lakes

 

[tt_johnsclist]

A gun shop in nw Ohio was working on a 30-06 trimmed like you suggest and it was loaded with a 44 caliber bullet. It was called 44 Predator. I think they are out of business now, but that is what I recall of the concept.

 

[RockAndSage]

My cousin is in IL and just bought one. Again it’s currently just a wildcat chambering but he said there is ammo available for it. He has both the .350L & .450BM already but like me he likes to tinker around with the new stuff!

Any idea how it compares to .400 Legend?

 

[RockAndSage]

REM 700 action with 22” Douglas barrel chambered in .41 Great Lakes

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Just came across this upper in .41 GL:

41 Great Lakes Upper | Precision & Power for Michigan Shooters

Discover the 41 Great Lakes Upper, engineered for unmatched precision and power. Perfect for Michigan shooters seeking reliability in every shot.

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[z987k]

444 Marlin in a single shot with a 24in barrel, throat it to load the cartridge at 2.800, would get it done. Use the 250gr Cutting Edge maximus, load the case with as much CFE-BLK as you can... should be 2650fps or so. That puts you at 1630fps at 400y. Cutting edge wants 1300fps for that bullet.
The $350 CVA would work for this, just have the chamber throated.

Could also do something like a 45-90 with a similar bullet in modern break action, same powder, and run it up to 65kpsi. Gets you to 400y.

 

[1 Gunnut]

As the self-appointed chairman of the welcoming committee, it is my privilege to extend a laurel, and hearty handshake (virtual, of course) to our new member.


Eddie

Thank you!

 

[1 Gunnut]

You need to look into the .41 Great Lakes. Kicks like a .350 legend but thumps like a .450 BM. Available in bolt actions and I believe it’s designed off the .30-06 case

I'm aware of this option, but I'm not sure if it offers any benefits over the 400 Legend?

 

[longrangelead]

700 Nitro Rimless? 1000gr cannonball @ 2000 fps. it shoots surprisingly flat.

seriously though, I did a 458x2"/450 Marlin a few years ago. It's nearly(low pressure) 45-70 performance from a short action.

can be made from any Win Mag belted brass.

 

[Choupique]

If there isnt an OAL restriction, seems like a .308 straight wall about 5" long would work well, or however long it needs to be to push a 180gr bullet to 2650.

A smokeless muzzleloader would work. Wonder why that hasn't been done yet?

 

[1 Gunnut]

Lots of great food for thought so far!

A few more things to think about...

I'm not aware of any restrictions on case taper in Ohio, it just can't have a shoulder.

I'm curious if taking a .375 Win, or even the .40-90 Sharps and loading it with a bullet like Barnes LXR would do the trick? Assuming it would take a modern action and barrel to handle pressures, but what might be the results of this?

Also, being very new to the wildcat scene, I don't really know what all is possible. I know a case can be be fire formed to a larger bullet, but is it possible to re size a cartridge to some thing smaller? and still maintain a straight wall? Thinking down the line of a .444 Marlin downsized to take a .40 bullet. Possible, or no?