New Argali 3P Tent? Help Me Design it.

[Brad@Argali]

If it's as pictured in my mind you've got me sold... but my mind also believes the Ammo Fairy brings me free cases of ammunition and Gun Santa makes all my new guns in a factory for free. Alas, my accountant says it's false news and is draining my funds. So my mind is pretty wild.

 

[SikaHuntaa]

Yeah I'm gonna have to grab one to thrash around in NZ- think it will answer a lot of desires for me when taking out folks for hunts

 

[HighUintas]

I'm curious on your freestanding preference...Our standard floorless shelters pitch quite a bit faster than a freestanding tent since there is no fussing with poles, and the pitch is easy because it's a rectangular shape. This tent will also be built off a rectangular design so the pitch is fast and easy. But, I know some people still prefer a free standing tent for perceived or real ease of pitching. Any insight on your preference for a freestanding tent if you have one?

If this were made in a UL freestanding option that would compete in weight with durstons new freestanding tent (2p) but allow a stove with 2+ (2 adults and toddler) I'd buy one in a heartbeat. I like the trekking pole shelters, but they are not easy above treeline and in nonflat terrain. Having one I could use solo in that terrain with or without stove and room for my wife and toddler would be awesome.

 

[Brad@Argali]

If this were made in a UL freestanding option that would compete in weight with durstons new freestanding tent (2p) but allow a stove with 2+ (2 adults and toddler) I'd buy one in a heartbeat. I like the trekking pole shelters, but they are not easy above treeline and in nonflat terrain. Having one I could use solo in that terrain with or without stove and room for my wife and toddler would be awesome.

That's super helpful and makes sense.

 

[Fins_N_Tines]

@Brad@Argali what is the target weight? same as a Rincon or heavier?

 

[JNDEER]

I'm curious on your freestanding preference...Our standard floorless shelters pitch quite a bit faster than a freestanding tent since there is no fussing with poles, and the pitch is easy because it's a rectangular shape. This tent will also be built off a rectangular design so the pitch is fast and easy. But, I know some people still prefer a free standing tent for perceived or real ease of pitching. Any insight on your preference for a freestanding tent if you have one?

The ability to move a true free standing tent to the perfect spot to sleep and its ability to be put up in all environments is whats a draw for me. That and usually they are maximizing head space through out the shelter with higher angled walls than others.

No shelter is perfect for all scenarios- but like others have mentioned if you are in a place that requires a hot tent it’s assumed you will be carrying more weight and likely will prefer more room for drying gear and sleep area so most will favor bigger then smaller.

For specific preference- I like a true free standing as the semi free standing (BA Tiger Wall) in most cases only saves an ounce or two and although gives you maximize head space and steep walls- it requires a more specific spot to be placed or other means to hold the corners down (ie rocks).

 

[Brad@Argali]

@Brad@Argali what is the target weight? same as a Rincon or heavier?

It will be heavier than the rincon since it is a 3P tent, but not sure yet on the actual weight. Shooting for around 1.5-1.75 lbs.

 

[Brad@Argali]

The ability to move a true free standing tent to the perfect spot to sleep and its ability to be put up in all environments is whats a draw for me. That and usually they are maximizing head space through out the shelter with higher angled walls than others.

No shelter is perfect for all scenarios- but like others have mentioned if you are in a place that requires a hot tent it’s assumed you will be carrying more weight and likely will prefer more room for drying gear and sleep area so most will favor bigger then smaller.

For specific preference- I like a true free standing as the semi free standing (BA Tiger Wall) in most cases only saves an ounce or two and although gives you maximize head space and steep walls- it requires a more specific spot to be placed or other means to hold the corners down (ie rocks).

Appreciate that feedback.

 

[packgoatguy]

Most of the year my Durston Xmid Pro2+ is the go-to because it's so spacious, lightweight, and easy to setup. But in late seasons, it would be nice to have a small floor less shelter with a stove to dry out clothes. What would be nice is a way to combine/connect the two... make the floor less shelter a sort of accessory/add-on for the sleeping shelter, that could be added on when conditions warranted... but left behind when not needed.

 

[Brad@Argali]

Most of the year my Durston Xmid Pro2+ is the go-to because it's so spacious, lightweight, and easy to setup. But in late seasons, it would be nice to have a small floor less shelter with a stove to dry out clothes. What would be nice is a way to combine/connect the two... make the floor less shelter a sort of accessory/add-on for the sleeping shelter, that could be added on when conditions warranted... but left behind when not needed.

I think you could probably accomplish your last comment with a tarp.

 

[soyshaun]

Soooo... I am sure there has got to be others that are wondering the same thing! When can we expect to see this great creation and buy the thing? Before August 2025?

 

[Brad@Argali]

Soooo... I am sure there has got to be others that are wondering the same thing! When can we expect to see this great creation and buy the thing? Before August 2025?

Well, I don't know just yet. The paneling on this one is proving a little tricky, so if I can get that done it's possible it will be out by August, but not sure just yet. It might unfortunately get pushed to the fall depending on how fast we can get enough fabric made. I'll keep you all posted!

 

[Wright406]

I’ve hunted in hot tents and freestanding with two people so here my take:

Stove jack yes. I’d rather have it and not need it then the opposite.

Two doors would be ideal. I’ve use the door for venting the condensation, entry and exit, glassing in crap weather. Extra weight doesn’t bother me.

I would trade the stove jack for a door if it was needed but as long as the design of the tent didn’t require occupants to have to “step over” or walk around an individual to get to the door. I’m sure many have been in a “3p” tent and realized when the people get inside and the packs slowly unload, there’s damn near no room.

I’m looking forward to the design and like the looks of the new sleeping bags as well Argali is on the way up fast.

If you need someone to test it, I’ll volunteer as tribute to run it through its paces

 

[Brad@Argali]

I’ve hunted in hot tents and freestanding with two people so here my take:

Stove jack yes. I’d rather have it and not need it then the opposite.

Two doors would be ideal. I’ve use the door for venting the condensation, entry and exit, glassing in crap weather. Extra weight doesn’t bother me.

I would trade the stove jack for a door if it was needed but as long as the design of the tent didn’t require occupants to have to “step over” or walk around an individual to get to the door. I’m sure many have been in a “3p” tent and realized when the people get inside and the packs slowly unload, there’s damn near no room.

I’m looking forward to the design and like the looks of the new sleeping bags as well Argali is on the way up fast.

If you need someone to test it, I’ll volunteer as tribute to run it through its paces

Noted on the feedback. On a shelter of this size, I also prefer 2 doors, but that's also a personal preference.

And thank you for the sleeping bag note.