My gear/pack layout from base layers to binos

[HighUintas]

Zenbivy Lite 10° XL. I have done the full evolution of rectangular, mummy, quilts, etc. used heavily to way below 0° F. The Zenbivy lite system in 10° and XL is the best sleep system on the market.

In what way? Longevity? Warmth perforance/comfort against their claims? Warmth to weight ratio?

 

[Formidilosus]

In what way? Longevity? Warmth perforance/comfort against their claims? Warmth to weight ratio?

All?

It’s the most comfortable sleep system on the market. I don’t say that lightly. It is every single good thing about a quilt, with absolutely none of the drawbacks. Extremely warm, you stay on top of the pad at all times, zero drafts; your head has a head box for your pillow so it doesn’t move around, and it keeps your head warm. Can vent and use like a common quilt, or strap it in and it’s like a comforter at home- there is a massive amount of room in it; you do not get tangled up.


The only thing that is a drawback is if you get one too small. If you are over 5’6” or more than a string bean- get the XL.

 

[atmat]

All?

It’s the most comfortable sleep system on the market. I don’t say that lightly. It is every single good thing about a quilt, with absolutely none of the drawbacks. Extremely warm, you stay on top of the pad at all times, zero drafts; your head has a head box for your pillow so it doesn’t move around, and it keeps your head warm. Can vent and use like a common quilt, or strap it in and it’s like a comforter at home- there is a massive amount of room in it; you do not get tangled up.


The only thing that is a drawback is if you get one too small. If you are over 5’6” or more than a string bean- get the XL.

I echo all of this. I sleep way better than my heathen hunting buddies who don’t use the Zenbivy Lite 10* XL he’s describing.

 

[grahambiel]

I echo all of this. I sleep way better than my heathen hunting buddies who don’t use the Zenbivy Lite 10* XL he’s describing.

Form has also clearly taken this into cold enough temps to vouch for the 10* but for anyone who is concerned about the temp rating or is a cold sleeper I noticed they recently released a -5* system. And for those more concerned about weight, they have an ultralight system now too

 

[atmat]

Form has also clearly taken this into cold enough temps to vouch for the 10* but for anyone who is concerned about the temp rating or is a cold sleeper I noticed they recently released a -5* system. And for those more concerned about weight, they have an ultralight system now too

I’ve slept in the 10* down to zero without a heated bottle and been plenty fine. I pair it with an Exped U7 and it’s toasty.

 

[HighUintas]

After looking, the lite version runs close to my chilkoot 0 in weight and I think well over when paired with the sheet bed part. So, I'm probably just sticking with the chilkoot. I don't see a reason to change. My thought on going to a quilt was to save weight.

 

[atmat]

After looking, the lite version runs close to my chilkoot 0 in weight and I think well over when paired with the sheet bed part. So, I'm probably just sticking with the chilkoot. I don't see a reason to change. My thought on going to a quilt was to save weight.

The biggest benefit of quilts, in my experience, is comfort not weight.

My current setup weighs more than my last but I just sleep soooo much better.

 

[HighUintas]

The biggest benefit of quilts, in my experience, is comfort not weight.

My current setup weighs more than my last but I just sleep soooo much better.

Yes, the zenbi y sounds super comfy. My chilkoot is big enough that I'm very comfortable in it. I'm 5-10' 160lbs with the regular length and I feel like I'm swimming in it

 

[ekupp]

All?

It’s the most comfortable sleep system on the market. I don’t say that lightly. It is every single good thing about a quilt, with absolutely none of the drawbacks. Extremely warm, you stay on top of the pad at all times, zero drafts; your head has a head box for your pillow so it doesn’t move around, and it keeps your head warm. Can vent and use like a common quilt, or strap it in and it’s like a comforter at home- there is a massive amount of room in it; you do not get tangled up.


The only thing that is a drawback is if you get one too small. If you are over 5’6” or more than a string bean- get the XL.

Thoughts on the new -5 option, is that too much fill for 48 state winter camping for fit adult male or is the 10 degree the sweet spot for snow camping at high elevation?

 

[Formidilosus]

Thoughts on the new -5 option, is that too much fill for 48 state winter camping for fit adult male or is the 10 degree the sweet spot for snow camping at high elevation?

The 10° F model has as much or
more loft than all the 0° F down bags that I have. The -5° F is great I’m sure, but I’m not sure it will be needed by most unless you are constantly sleeping at -0°F temps and below. I, and everyone else I am around that uses them- stay way warmer in below 0°F temps with the current 10° model, than anyone that we are with that are using regular 0° F sleeping bags. I and a couple have used them below -20° F.