My gear/pack layout from base layers to binos

[Dobermann]

This just arrived today - https://www.happyyak.com/products/1...eanie-brown-black?_pos=1&_sid=b71eaae62&_ss=r. It's comfortable enough so far that I would sleep in it. In my house.

Linky not worky.

And pics of sleeping in it in your house or it didn't happen.

 

[fwafwow]

Linky not worky.

And pics of sleeping in it in your house or it didn't happen.

I fixed the link. Alpaca double layer. I will need to get Mrs fwafwow to take the pic.

 

[philcox]

@Formidilosus did you ever expound on how you take care of the Vivo's? Curious as to the leather prep you use to make it as "waterproof" as possible for winter.

- Yep was answered https://rokslide.com/forums/threads...e-layers-to-binos.347814/page-19#post-3779958

 

[Dobermann]

@Formidilosus did you ever expound on how you take care of the Vivo's? Curious as to the leather prep you use to make it as "waterproof" as possible for winter.

- Yep was answered https://rokslide.com/forums/threads...e-layers-to-binos.347814/page-19#post-3779958

I can affirm the value of keeping them oiled.

Our local archery club's field shoots usually feature hikes through mud and creeks. I oil mine before each hike, and clean them afterwards. No water ingress issues in a couple of years' worth of use.

 

[Wolfshead]

What wool vest is that?

Try this, it looks very similar and these guys have a good product.

Tracker's Vest

*Sizing: Athletic Fit, runs slightly smaller than traditional wool vest. Strongly Recommend Sizing Up* Introducing the Tracker's Vest, the ultimate companion for hunters in pursuit of an unparalleled wool vest option. Crafted with the hunter in mind, this innovative wool vest redefines...

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[Ajsomp]

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That’s as good as I’ve got. It’s loose enough I often don’t roll it anymore. Probably took a month or so of wear and a washing to loosen up.





You are welcome, I’m glad to hear it has been of some use.

Snagged myself an Atlantic rancher ranger off eBay. It was originally an xxxl that apparently someone shrunk - fits more like a L/XL. I can see how this would keep you warm because is definitely robust. I need to compare it to a Duckworth powder hoody. Jury is still out if I want to pack something this heavy on a multi day hunt

 

[Formidilosus]

Snagged myself an Atlantic rancher ranger off eBay. It was originally an xxxl that apparently someone shrunk - fits more like a L/XL. I can see how this would keep you warm because is definitely robust. I need to compare it to a Duckworth powder hoody. Jury is still out if I want to pack something this heavy on a multi day hunt

It is a bit heavy, however u carried it all last season and will again this year. It just feels right.

 

[WaWox]

I did a side by side comparison of kuiu merino blend socks, mongulai 100% camel socks, and darn tough hiking merino socks -- one day for each (usually I'd not change socks 3x on a 3 day trip but this was for science!). I repeated this on two different 3 day trips but conditions happened to be so similar that results were also identical.

Kuiu fared the worst -- coldest (tied with Darn tough) in the morning pre dawn and when glassing in 35-40F weather or after dusk in camp, and sweatiest when hiking when it had heated up to 80+F during the day. Darn Tough were a smidgen less sweaty during the hot period. Camel was toasty during the cold periods and while still unpleasantly hot they made my feet feel least like I am melting inside my shoes when it hit 85F and we did a steep climb.

Also, the next day, I'd definitely have been happiest with wearing the camel ones again versus the other two -- all three were fine/ weren't smelly at all, but the camel ones still felt/smelt like straight out of the packaging

 

[Drewdog10]

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[medvedyt]

late in a battle but great write up @Formidilosus

 

[2Stamp]

This is the first I've seen this gear dump/review. It reminds me of the old Lightfighter Forum days.

 

[philcox]

When they look like they are getting dried out, I wipe them clean and reapply a leather treatment. I’ve used multiple. Keeping them waxed/oiled seems to be the optimum process.

@Formidilosus I got a pair of the Trekker ESC. I really like them, however my feet are still getting wet in them. How did you waterproof them? I tried the Renapur stuff, but just got back from a hunt that had a wet grass, and socks were soaked when I got home. Was wondering how you waterproofed yours?

Thanks.

 

[wildmek]

@Formidilosus I got a pair of the Trekker ESC. I really like them, however my feet are still getting wet in them. How did you waterproof them? I tried the Renapur stuff, but just got back from a hunt that had a wet grass, and socks were soaked when I got home. Was wondering how you waterproofed yours?

Thanks.

The sole is sewn on through the side of the shoe and the glue lets go where the shoe flexes so to waterproof them you would have to silicone where the sole comes loose from the leather and at the outter stitching as far as I can tell.

The renapur is pretty runny. If you get some thicker stuff with good amounts bees wax, apply with some heat, and really work it in, especially into those threads, they should be pretty water resistant.

I like them for certain things but not wet conditions. The base price for these is wild for what you get.

 

[FZMT]

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That’s as good as I’ve got. It’s loose enough I often don’t roll it anymore. Probably took a month or so of wear and a washing to loosen up.





You are welcome, I’m glad to hear it has been of some use.

After some use the neck has indeed loosened up and the sweater has become my preferred mid layer. As Hydr said, the sweater is “Super robust, soft, and almost airy feeling”.

The Kebs and Sarma TST (with thigh vents) have also performed very well.

I think I’ve tried almost every one of your clothing (and other) recommendations and have been happy with the purchases.

I have not tried the Red Kettle but am interested.

Should I just go by their sizing guide for my measurements or size up? Are you using their Light Ventile Hunting Jacket in all ‘wet’ and active conditions between where you’d use the Wind Shirt and the full rain gear?

 

[Formidilosus]

I have not tried the Red Kettle but am interested.

Should I just go by their sizing guide for my measurements or size up?

If you want a more closely fitted jacket, your normal size seems about right. If a bit looser, size up.

Are you using their Light Ventile Hunting Jacket in all ‘wet’ and active conditions between where you’d use the Wind Shirt and the full rain gear?

Kind of. It’s really different than anything else, but you can think of it replacing both.

 

[Ens Entium]

After some use the neck has indeed loosened up and the sweater has become my preferred mid layer. As Hydr said, the sweater is “Super robust, soft, and almost airy feeling”.

The Kebs and Sarma TST (with thigh vents) have also performed very well.

I think I’ve tried almost every one of your clothing (and other) recommendations and have been happy with the purchases.

I have not tried the Red Kettle but am interested.

Should I just go by their sizing guide for my measurements or size up? Are you using their Light Ventile Hunting Jacket in all ‘wet’ and active conditions between where you’d use the Wind Shirt and the full rain gear?

I wear the Redkettle M20 Wind Shell over a base layer in all hunts and find it works really well as a durable wind layer that breathes.

I originally purchased just the Redkettle M19 "Light" Hunting Jacket and upon receipt realized it was a much heavier jacket for adverse weather. I haven't used their Hardshell though for me the Light Hunting Jacket is enough for my rain outer shell.

Really hoping they have another big sale like 2022 so I can pick up a smaller size after losing some weight.

 

[FZMT]

Thank you both.

I’ll try the Wind Shell as I’m most interested in a more durable wind shirt.

Have either of you (or anyone else) tried the Keb jacket and would it be possible to compare it to ventile?

 

[FZMT]

Anybody know what kind of modification would be necessary (if it could be done at all) to add the side bags to a SG Sky5900?


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You can add the side bags to a SG Sky5900 with 1” triglides on the main 3 frame to bag straps.

 

[Ens Entium]

Thank you both.

I’ll try the Wind Shell as I’m most interested in a more durable wind shirt.

Have either of you (or anyone else) tried the Keb jacket and would it be possible to compare it to ventile?

I have a Keb Jacket as well and find the Redkettle Windshell better as the stretch panels on the Keb allow wind through. The Redkettle is a little less comfortable regarding stretch but also is more durable as a result.

 

[FZMT]

I have a Keb Jacket as well and find the Redkettle Windshell better as the stretch panels on the Keb allow wind through. The Redkettle is a little less comfortable regarding stretch but also is more durable as a result.

Thanks, I figured the stretch would allow more wind through but it’s good to confirm.

Is the G1000 more breathable than the ventile or just the stretch panels?

Are there times where you prefer the more breathable stretch material for the back panel ie when hiking with a pack?