Mouth call vs Electronic call

[MOwhitetail]

Does anyone here that’s used an electronic call like a Foxpro still use mouth/hand calls? I live in an area where coyote calling has become really popular over the last 5 years or so and it seems the dogs have become more wise to the Foxpro. I’m wondering if switching to mouth calls would give me an advantage. It would seem that a mouth blown call could easier match the higher frequencies of real prey in distress. Just a thought I had today.

 

[Skerhunter]

Does anyone here that’s used an electronic call like a Foxpro still use mouth/hand calls? I live in an area where coyote calling has become really popular over the last 5 years or so and it seems the dogs have become more wise to the Foxpro. I’m wondering if switching to mouth calls would give me an advantage. It would seem that a mouth blown call could easier match the higher frequencies of real prey in distress. Just a thought I had today.

Yes and No - if they are educated to standard distress like rabbit - doing the same thing with a hand call produces the same results.

If they don’t respond you just have to keep trying until you figure out what works.

If you have a good ecaller and can load new sounds there isn’t a huge advantage to hand calls.

If you have a cheap one - learn to howl and do pup distress on reed and diaphram calls.

 

[AverageShot]

Does anyone here that’s used an electronic call like a Foxpro still use mouth/hand calls? I live in an area where coyote calling has become really popular over the last 5 years or so and it seems the dogs have become more wise to the Foxpro. I’m wondering if switching to mouth calls would give me an advantage. It would seem that a mouth blown call could easier match the higher frequencies of real prey in distress. Just a thought I had today.

I have tried both. With my skill level, I dont have any luck with a mouth call. Its easier to stick with the electronic call and tell myself they are educated.

That being said, my luck seems to come in waves, but they still come to the foxpro. Are you running a foxpro?

 

[MOwhitetail]

Yeah. I’ve got a shockwave that I like pretty well. Definitely easier to run which is why I think everyone has one.

 

[KJ_ND]

The disadvantage to mouth calls is you are directly making the noises so the eyes will be on you. Electronic calls can be placed away from you. If it is a heavily called area I would recommend calling less or less frequent. If everyone is just leaving their call on for 30 minutes the critters will get keen to it.

 

[MOwhitetail]

The disadvantage to mouth calls is you are directly making the noises so the eyes will be on you. Electronic calls can be placed away from you. If it is a heavily called area I would recommend calling less or less frequent. If everyone is just leaving their call on for 30 minutes the critters will get keen to it.

Yeah that’s why I haven’t really gotten into using a mouth call. (That and blowing one for that long makes me light headed haha).

How long do you run your call for? I’ll usually do 3-5 min stretches of sound and then cut it for 2-3 minutes. I feel that any longer breaks than that and they’ll lose interest/hang up.

 

[KJ_ND]

Yeah that’s why I haven’t really gotten into using a mouth call. (That and blowing one for that long makes me light headed haha).

How long do you run your call for? I’ll usually do 3-5 min stretches of sound and then cut it for 2-3 minutes. I feel that any longer breaks than that and they’ll lose interest/hang up.

It depends I keep distress shorter but howls up to 10 minutes. I would try longer breaks 5-10 minutes. They're curious especially in the winter.

 

[TheGDog]

Interesting... I'd always done like 2-3 minutes on... and maybe 60-90 seconds off. And sometimes do things like try to pick the sounds ordering, such that I'm ending it with like a sound that logically makes sense.


Like let's say I'm trying Rabbit sounds. Well, then I make sure towards the end of it, to morph thru the sounds that sound more tired and losing energy. Such as ending with like Dying Jack, for example. Because it makes logical sense that after wailing at first, it'd sound tuckered out and near death.

As another small portable option that you DON'T have to blow... checkout the PocketPrey Digital Caller. They now have one that does 3 sounds! 9v battery to run it. And it works! Even helps pull-in Rabbits as well, if you play it more quietly.

It's just different though because you have to remember to direct the sound back-and-forth as it's playing out into the area, so the coyote will perceive it as the creature is still moving. You have to be at the ready when YOU are where the sound emanates from. At a moments notice you'll have to drop that caller onto your lap or the ground and bring your rifle/shotgun to bear. Ultimately you want the area to have visibility enough that you can detect him coming in from a ways away, so you can get ready with your weapon.

It's definitely exciting to have them run right up to you!

For mouth calls? Maybe try the danthompsongamecalls.com River Bottom Coaxer and the Weems Replica. The Primos Third Degree not bad either, but if you blow into that one too hard it can "hit a wall" and go quiet on you. So beware of that.

(The PocketPrey is that little black box in this pic, beside the Hornady ammo box)

 

[Stubborn_bowhunter]

Interesting... I'd always done like 2-3 minutes on... and maybe 60-90 seconds off. And sometimes do things like try to pick the sounds ordering, such that I'm ending it with like a sound that logically makes sense.


Like let's say I'm trying Rabbit sounds. Well, then I make sure towards the end of it, to morph thru the sounds that sound more tired and losing energy. Such as ending with like Dying Jack, for example. Because it makes logical sense that after wailing at first, it'd sound tuckered out and near death.

As another small portable option that you DON'T have to blow... checkout the PocketPrey Digital Caller. They now have one that does 3 sounds! 9v battery to run it. And it works! Even helps pull-in Rabbits as well, if you play it more quietly.

It's just different though because you have to remember to direct the sound back-and-forth as it's playing out into the area, so the coyote will perceive it as the creature is still moving. You have to be at the ready when YOU are where the sound emanates from. At a moments notice you'll have to drop that caller onto your lap or the ground and bring your rifle/shotgun to bear. Ultimately you want the area to have visibility enough that you can detect him coming in from a ways away, so you can get ready with your weapon.

It's definitely exciting to have them run right up to you!

For mouth calls? Maybe try the danthompsongamecalls.com River Bottom Coaxer and the Weems Replica. The Primos Third Degree not bad either, but if you blow into that one too hard it can "hit a wall" and go quiet on you. So beware of that.

(The PocketPrey is that little black box in this pic, beside the Hornady ammo box)
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My buddy killed one with his phone on speaker in his back pocket the other day. People might already have a "pocket prey"

 

[Blcktail56]

Does anyone here that’s used an electronic call like a Foxpro still use mouth/hand calls? I live in an area where coyote calling has become really popular over the last 5 years or so and it seems the dogs have become more wise to the Foxpro. I’m wondering if switching to mouth calls would give me an advantage. It would seem that a mouth blown call could easier match the higher frequencies of real prey in distress. Just a thought I had today.

What I have found on educated dogs there is a more realistic tone or something they pic up from a diaphragm call or even a hand held call being covered and controlled with your hands. I think it is more natural sounding to them or something I couldn’t tell you what. I have had many coyotes hang up at 200-1000 yards with the E-call and started mouth calling and pulled them in on a string. Yes you can kill them at most of those distances but to me the fun is to kill em as close as I can. That being said if you mouth call they’re hearing is insane so HOLD STILL! They are always looking where the sound is. You have to have the gun up and ready to shoot before you start calling

 

[go_deep]

I use both, kill coyotes with both, but think a mouth call is better. The only thing that makes the mouth call better is if you call with it like a rabbit would sounds being attached, face down, face up, face muffled, louder, softer, all while the call is pointed in different directions.

 

[Blcktail56]

Another thing is to make noises that aren’t being made by everyone. Try to cover your call with your hands and control sound/air with them. Flutter a little to make and fluttering gurgling sound that a dying animal is going to make. Just try shit because not every dying rabbit is going to make the same noise and it doesn’t matter if it’s a rabbit distress sound or a fawn distress sound they are coming to eat whatever the hell is dying. Something new to them is what is gonna help you