Meateater sells a controlling stake to anti-gun Democrat?

[Broomd]

i think everyone should have at least one, if not more social or political issues that put them into emotional crisis. It shows you're invested in the future.

Obviously this posting was tongue-in-cheek, but you actually stumbled on the core of the issue. Hey!

Emotion (Guilt, anger, hatred) -> Political Correctness -> (insert outrageous legislation or poisonous media-driven meme here).... the endless drips chipping away at the foundation of our democracy and this country.

eg. Those poor deer! Why would someone kill that cuddly bear!? Those poor homeless drug users! Those poor immigrants! That poor guy who has male junk but he's convinced he's a woman under all that chest hair! That poor McDonald's customer who spilled 165* coffee on herself!
What are we to do!?

Things are going to get much worse, and honestly I feel for some of you young guys. Stand and defend everything right now, or we'll all look back to 'the good ole days.'

 

[*zap*]

It is amazing that voters keep electing politicians that give millions of $ to illegal alien non workers and homeless drug addicts via higher taxes. I guess you cannot fix stupid and seems many states are a majority of stupid.

Very disconcerting situation.

 

[MuleyFever]

It goes way beyond what they believe and what motivates them, it comes down to what makes the most logical sense. Making decisions based on anything else........isn't logical. That's what should motivate people. Being able to use logic and reason is what separates us from the rest of the animals.

A quote from Eric Hoffer: "Hatred is the most accessible and comprehensive of all the unifying agents. Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a god, but never without a belief in a devil.” I would agree in that Satan is the one pulling all the strings on the left these days, as it's easy to see that every decision and ideology they have and use is in direct defiance to God and His Word.

Pretty illogical that you would try to paint one political group with such a broad brush.

 

[DenverCountryBoy]

That’s funny I was just talking about exactly this the other day. One of the guiding principles of the North American model of wildlife conservation that the Rinellas and Newburgs of the industry like to talk about is the elimination of market value of wildlife. In an ironic way wildlife has a huge market value now - albeit in a different sense. You can’t sell a dead animal, but you and your sponsors sure can make a bunch of money from a picture of you with one. The current type of market value we have on wildlife shouldn’t threaten the population size per se, but it sure challenges public access to that valuable resource (think about all the bow hunting deer leases in the east that are squeezing the average joe out). To further the irony, public ownership of that wildlife is yet another guiding tenet of the model, but ownership doesn’t guarantee access.


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Market hunting vs hunting media is the same difference as prostitution vs pornography. It is legal for one to be paid for being recorded doing something, but not for the activity itself.

 

[Broomd]

Kudos for standing guard!
That picture reminds me of my son, also serving.

And my use of 'you young guys' was in a generic, forum-wide sense; although at 55, I think I can safely use it for most here.

Coming full circle...maybe these latest posts can underscore why some see Rinella's move as a sell out. 'Stand and defend everything' means the little things. The guy can do what he wants, it's his baby, and we're still a free country; but selling out to a far left concern like Chernin doesn't seem to be going in the right direction. Time will tell.

 

[HookUp]

Reminds me of Hobby Lobby holding stock in pharmaceutical companies who make birth control. If the money is right and no one knows its against their known agenda in for the $.

 

[*zap*]

If you sell out when everyone is watching I would hate to imagine what you do when no one knows....

 

[juan trueno]

Kudos for standing guard!
That picture reminds me of my son, also serving.

And my use of 'you young guys' was in a generic, forum-wide sense; although at 55, I think I can safely use it for most here.

Coming full circle...maybe these latest posts can underscore why some see Rinella's move as a sell out. 'Stand and defend everything' means the little things. The guy can do what he wants, it's his baby, and we're still a free country; but selling out to a far left concern like Chernin doesn't seem to be going in the right direction. Time will tell.

I pulled that Post down not trying to further Derrail- probably while you were typing..but there it is... My point was in part that between standing and defending everything and supporting 20 week abortion is some wide ground..... essentially making the point your making but clumsier. I don’t have any great ideas to convey, but

I do think guys set themselves up for disappointment when they lose site of the fact that these “spokesman” are paid entertainers. To my eye some of this resembles getting uptight about the WWF / NWA-WCW merger- not to trivialize it, any more than anything else.

 

[ODB]

Kudos for standing guard!
That picture reminds me of my son, also serving.

And my use of 'you young guys' was in a generic, forum-wide sense; although at 55, I think I can safely use it for most here.

Coming full circle...maybe these latest posts can underscore why some see Rinella's move as a sell out. 'Stand and defend everything' means the little things. The guy can do what he wants, it's his baby, and we're still a free country; but selling out to a far left concern like Chernin doesn't seem to be going in the right direction. Time will tell.

It is interesting because he has spoken about incrementalism several times on the podcast. IF Chernin were an anti gunning whatever, it would seem to make a good case for this being a “camels nose under the tent” kind of thing. I think Rinella will make a statement on it soon.

 

[Rthur]

I for one am just glad we have an outrage of the week. We haven’t had one since Sitka. Getting mighty quiet on the interwebs.

I hate AR’s, dope smoking kids rattling off 1000 rounds from their hip while I’m trying to test reloads. I’ve owned 10 or so of them, I dislike shooting them, so I sold them and own zero. If they ban them, I’ll go buy another bolt gun. If they ban rifles I’ll buy a bow.

I’ll cast my vote and let the chips fall where they may. That’s the beauty of democracy, when you get outnumbered, you lose. If we are outnumbered due to all these idiots shooting crap up that’s what happens.

Do I want them banned? No. Will it happen? At some point yes. The world as a whole is moving to the left, it will happen. Whether it’s an actual ban or a Clinton style manufacture ban is the question.


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If we were in a democracy the above would be true. Constitutional republic.
The media and many others spead the same bs.

R

 

[5MilesBack]

And when you say “makes the most logical sense” understand that for you that is informed by your beliefs and motivations. For others, it’s not.

That's the thing about logic, it just is. It doesn't discriminate, it doesn't have beliefs or motivations, it just is what it is regardless of the circumstances.

But I know what you're saying. It makes no logical sense to have open borders..........unless the goal is to ruin the country. But then does ruining the country make logical sense? Perhaps, if you're not a real American patriot.

 

[5MilesBack]

Pretty illogical that you would try to paint one political group with such a broad brush.

I just work with what they give and show us. If they'd give or show us something else to work with, perhaps those facts would change. It is my honest opinion that we'd be better off with chickens plucking buttons in Congress than the Dems, because with the chickens.......probability would eventually allow the chickens to choose a correct choice. But the Dems get it wrong 100% of the time.

 

[Dusty2426]

If you can read Newburg’s response and turn this into an abortion debate then you can’t be helped, you are totally unhinged.

If you can support a guy for his stance on public lands but can’t see fault with his stance on late term abortion you are totally unhinged.

 

[Trial153]

I can care less what anyones views are on abortion. It's not even on my radar.

 

[ODB]

I can care less what anyones views are on abortion. It's not even on my radar.

Start running this idea through Kant and see where you end up. In other words, what IS on your radar? I don’t see any problem with a guy who is frustrated by what seems to be an imbalance of moral rectitude. Being a single-issue voter has its perks though....

 

[Rthur]

I can care less what anyones views are on abortion. It's not even on my radar.

So, hunting rights/public grounds = worthy of concern.
Killing unborn, meh, I think there is a football game on tonight...
Rights, hopefully in a moral society, should begin with no murder allowed.

R

 

[Trial153]

Wait I thought every one was all up in arms over 2a? So this was really about abortion all along. Got it.
Do you vote for a pro life life gun grabber then, because there been more then a few of them in office.

 

[Trial153]

If you can support a guy for his stance on public lands but can’t see fault with his stance on late term abortion you are totally unhinged.

How can you have a stance if life begin at conception?
Two months ...no way. Two weeks..no problem?

 

[Trial153]

So, hunting rights/public grounds = worthy of concern.
Killing unborn, meh, I think there is a football game on tonight...
Rights, hopefully in a moral society, should begin with no murder allowed.

R

Like it or not abortion is legal. And quite frankly until the SCOTUS states otherwise it’s staying that way, despite what my or anyone else views on it is. So with that fact in mind it’s relevance to a candidate is pretty irrelevant.

 

[Dusty2426]

How can you have a stance if life begin at conception?
Two months ...no way. Two weeks..no problem?

I never said I supported it at any level. That was presumptuous of you. I said HE supported late term. Don’t support abortion at any level unless explicit medical reasons.