McMillan Mountain Tracker LR

DJL2

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Could someone explain this trigger reach issue that has recently become a problem with 99% of rifle stocks please because I don’t get it.
If you look at the photo @khuber84 posted you can see his trigger finger is 90 degrees from his first knuckle to the tip. Folks will tell you that this 90 degree trigger finger angle allows for optimal trigger pull because you are pressing the pad of your finger straight to the rear on the trigger. When your trigger finger is not aligned in this way, there is some component of the force that is not in-line with the bore.

If I get a chance, I'll post a photo of my A3... because it is physically impossible for me to place the pad of my finger on the trigger and form a 90 degree angle at the first joint of my finger while gripping the rifle on almost every stock I've ever used.
 

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That’s my McMillan A3 - I’m right around 45 deg on my first knuckle. Pretty typical for me on most stocks (Manners T2/CS-2 for example).
 

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The new Vesper 6prc build, picked it up yesterday from the smith. I ordered early June, they'd never done a Vesper inlet. My smith sent the action, they mapped it, and I my smith had the stock and action back mid August. I ordered one the for the wife's rifle first week of August, they just shipped it yesterday. So McMillan is around 60 days for turn around on my last few, super quick.
What do you prefer rokstock vs mt lr?
 

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What do you prefer rokstock vs mt lr?
I was shooting the 6prc in the McMillan and 6cm in the Rok earleir today. They feel very similar, recoil was near the same. The 6cm is a 20", factory 108 ammo at 2850 w/ enticer sti, the 19" 6prc 3000 with 115s w/ scythe ti. I like the 6prc a lot. I'm fire forming brass in the 6prc, and shooting old factory ammo to break in the 6cm.
 
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Great news.

I am going to see if after I order a Roktstock and McMillan if they will work with my Blasers. I'd prefer that as an option. It is not a show stopper. Big fan of the Nucleus and Bighorn Tl3.

A lot of new actions have come out since I left America. It would be interesting to mess with a few of them and see what I like.

I don't like the bolt options for the Anti-X, but I guess it is meant to be carried and not shot.
 
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Thanks for that.

What part of the process does trigger hand grip play?
Your trigger hand should be pulling the stock straight back into your shoulder without torquing the rifle. A well designed grip allows the shooter to leave their hand in a natural, neutral, unstrained position to help accomplish this while at the same time, putting the trigger finger in the right spot to most easily press straight back the opposite direction of where gun is pointing to minimize POA disturbance while doing so.

I understand how people who have never thought about that or shot something that is perfectly dialed for their hand wouldn’t really give it much thought but that is the part of a rifle stock that typically sets them apart most for me.

I also wear med or large gloves depending on sizing so don’t have particularly large hands.

Backfire isn’t my favorite but if you go to 14:50 in this video, it illustrates the reach aspect a bit.
 
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I do wish they made this stock with the tall grip version like they did with the game warden LR TG, that finger nub isn't necessary
Probably about keeping your fingers away from the trigger guard on a hard kicker.
 

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Your trigger hand should be pulling the stock straight back into your shoulder without torquing the rifle. A well designed grip allows the shooter to leave their hand in a natural, neutral, unstrained position to help accomplish this while at the same time, putting the trigger finger in the right spot to most easily press straight back exactly opposite direction of where gun is pointing to minimize POA disturbance while doing so.

I understand how people who have never thought about that or shot something that is perfectly dialed for their hand wouldn’t really give it much thought but that is the part of a rifle stock that typically sets them apart most for me.

I also wear med or large gloves depending on sizing so don’t have particularly large hands.

Backfire isn’t always my favorite but if you go to 14:50 in this video, it illustrates the reach aspect a bit.

Thank you for that explanation. I was hoping to ask my question in such a way that it was understood and you got it perfectly.
 

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What would cause someone to go with the Mountain Tracker over the Mountain Tracker LR? Or vise versa? Pros and cons to both?

Nothing wrong with the Mountain Tracker in my opinion. Its a Game Warden 2.0 with recessed arca plate and pic rail, which is cool.

But between the MT and ELR Hunter, I chose the ELR Hunter for the adjustable cheek.

And now between the MT and MT ELR, I'll get the MT ELR because it has the recoil-savvy buttstock shape (rokstock), and I'd like to try that out
 

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Nothing wrong with the Mountain Tracker in my opinion. Its a Game Warden 2.0 with recessed arca plate and pic rail, which is cool.

But between the MT and ELR Hunter, I chose the ELR Hunter for the adjustable cheek.

And now between the MT and MT ELR, I'll get the MT ELR because it has the recoil-savvy buttstock shape (rokstock), and I'd like to try that out
Mtn tracker LR has more negative comb, no heel drop, flatter toe line and a forend that's parallel to the bore. Quite different than a Game Warden 2.0, I have a few the 2.0 long range as well. This is probably the only stock I'll buy moving forward. The rokstok is quite good as well, but who knows when a guys gonna be able to order one them again.


EDIT, you're talking about a standard Mtn tracker, my bad I have not saw that one. Standard Mtn tracker does look like a game warden 2.0 with flush Pic and a integral arca. Which are both improvements.


Differences are pretty obvious.
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