McMillan Mountain Tracker LR - Tikka T3 Dev Project

[Lawnboi]

So the Mtn tracker is a bit more versatile, being it has integrated arca and is also bit lighter if you go with exposed carbon finish, at least my samples show. The McMillan forend is just slightly stiffer than the Rokstock in testing flexion. I've had no issues with the butt pad coming lose or stripping out the screw holes with McMillan, as I have with the rokstock. I believe the rokstock tracks slightly better from a bag/bipod as the butt stock toe line is parallel to forend, whereas the McMillan is I believe 3° different. The McMillan still tracks better than a manners PH, EH1 or my other McMillan Game Warden 2.0 LR stocks. Recoil management is very similar with the negative comb and high butt pad configuration. Low recoil cartridges think 65cm/6prc or less, you'll see not a lot of difference, stepping up to larger capacity and caliber magnums, the Rok will have the advantage here likely. Another pronto the Rok is the multitude of available SRS rails that'll fit any desire.

As far as fitment, I ordered my Mtn tracker at 13" LOP, and the womans at 12.75" to fit our shooting styles better. The Rok is only available at 13.5" or longer with spacers. The grips feel similar, as is the grip to trigger distance. The McMillan comes with a full length pacameyer pad VS the thin limbsaver. The seem similar in performance, and im glad the Rok uses the thin pad, as I find the thick limbsaver pads far too squishy and don't like how they feel shooting.

Honestly the rokstok is a good buy at the price point, I got a bare carbon and did my own paint so it was pretty cheap. Performace to cost ratio here is high. The McMillan is near 2x the price. There are tradeoffs in the fit/finish versatility(custom lop upon ordering) of the McMillan VS small advantage of the Rok where it wins in tracking and recoil management.

I would have ordered more Roks if I could, but I currently CAN'T. So a few weeks ago I ordered 3 more Mtn trackers. The McMillan is also available in non 700 style inelts, like the flat bottomed bat bumblebee and vampire actions(some the best lightweight actions available I feel) , which are two that I ordered, cannot get a Rok in that fitment.

That's my thoughts, the Roks a good stock. Is the McMillan better where the rubber meets the road(recoil management/tracking), no it's not. The Rok wins by small margin here. The McMillan wins in customizable options upon ordering, fit and finish, better craftsmanship, and its lighter even with integrated arca. I would gladly hunt with both and personally don't have a bias towards either one.

Do you feel the McMillan is worth the coin coming from an eh1?

Iv had a few McMillan tikka stocks and have been satisfied with them as far as a quality aspect goes.

 

[AU.MASHnKS]

I guess I should have verified. But I assumed tikka 3 and 3x will have same exact footprint allowing the 3x to work for this. Anyway, I threw my deposit in …

The same.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[WKR]

I don't even know why I check this thread or keep looking at the project backer count, I don't own any tikkas. But I still want it to go through into development for some reason.

 

[duckhunterrr]

I guess I should have verified. But I assumed tikka 3 and 3x will have same exact footprint allowing the 3x to work for this. Anyway, I threw my deposit in …

Can someone confirm for my poor soul?

 

[LostWapiti]

Can someone confirm for my poor soul?

Confirmed you are good to go

 

[mvv5137]

Down to 8! I really need to decide on a color.

 

[waspocrew]

Down to 8! I really need to decide on a color.

I really like the looks of the hard edge camo - I'll probably go with the slate for my stainless CTR.

 

[khuber84]

Is the McMillan as thin as the Rokstok or at least nearly the same? Of the few Macmillan’s I have handled in the past they had such a large chunky grip. This having a shorter trigger reach would be ok with the large grip but I would still prefer something thinner than what I have seen in the past.

From a pure handling and offhand shooting perspective how does the forend on the McMillan compare to the Rok in your opinion.

McMillan is thicker heavier palm swell, thicker wrist area. Doesn't bother me, have big hands.

Forend on the McMillan is a bit wider in general, less rounded shape, more of a squared off profile and flatter on the bottom. They don't feel much different in offhand position.

Do you feel the McMillan is worth the coin coming from an eh1?

Iv had a few McMillan tikka stocks and have been satisfied with them as far as a quality aspect goes.

An EH1 is close to price of a McMillan Mtn tracker. I feel the manners pro hunter is closest comparison, even tho the buttstock geometry is totally different, heavily favoring the McMillan here. EH1 is a good stock, feel the pro hunter is better. Manners have long grip to trigger distances, makes getting 90° press a challenge unless you're using a bit of a creeping forward grip. If I had the choice between the two, I'd go Mtn tracker every time. With the EH1 is already in hand, I'd be a noticeable upgrade going to the McMillan with higher recoil cartridges, and the grip position is much better. If it's a standard 478 bolt face cartridge you might not get a drastic increase in performance.

 

[Lawnboi]

McMillan is thicker heavier palm swell, thicker wrist area. Doesn't bother me, have big hands.

Forend on the McMillan is a bit wider in general, less rounded shape, more of a squared off profile and flatter on the bottom. They don't feel much different in offhand position.


An EH1 is close to price of a McMillan Mtn tracker. I feel the manners pro hunter is closest comparison, even tho the buttstock geometry is totally different, heavily favoring the McMillan here. EH1 is a good stock, feel the pro hunter is better. Manners have long grip to trigger distances, makes getting 90° press a challenge unless you're using a bit of a creeping forward grip. If I had the choice between the two, I'd go Mtn tracker every time. With the EH1 is already in hand, I'd be a noticeable upgrade going to the McMillan with higher recoil cartridges, and the grip position is much better. If it's a standard 478 bolt face cartridge you might not get a drastic increase in performance.

Iv got eh1s, and on the tikka i let i have sub 2” trigger reach, really not bad. Have had other manners though that i could not get along with in that department.

I had a rokstock ordered, and do like the flat bottom coming from chassis rifles so I’ll probably just wait till rokstock open back up.

For now I’m happy with my eh1s and do only shoot standard bolt face stuff. Just would like to try a negative comb eventually. Was mainly curious if you thought the negative comb was a substantial enough upgrade to jump to a new stock.

Would be easier if McMillan didn’t double stock prices over the last couple years.

Appreciate the input

 

[Shortschaf]

Iv got eh1s, and on the tikka i let i have sub 2” trigger reach, really not bad. Have had other manners though that i could not get along with in that department.

I had a rokstock ordered, and do like the flat bottom coming from chassis rifles so I’ll probably just wait till rokstock open back up.

For now I’m happy with my eh1s and do only shoot standard bolt face stuff. Just would like to try a negative comb eventually. Was mainly curious if you thought the negative comb was a substantial enough upgrade to jump to a new stock.

Would be easier if McMillan didn’t double stock prices over the last couple years.

Appreciate the input

View attachment 818331

Just chiming in to say my EH1 was also 1-7/8" trigger reach.

My McM ELR Hunter (if its any indication of what the Mountain Tracker LR will be) is 1-3/4"

 

[Shortschaf]

Posted on LRH, someone brought up that the Mountain Tracker LR has this bumpout on the grip.

McMillan offers stocks without that, calling it a "Tall Grip" version.

My opinion is that the "Tall Grip" is the superior option, and being that there will only be one mold for Tikkas, I am sharing so that maybe we can all get on board and make the same request for the Tall Grip option and eliminate that bumpount

 

[mvv5137]

I can get on board with that. I’ll send them an email about this evening. After all, we are the investors funding the project.

 

[LBWV]

Posted on LRH, someone brought up that the Mountain Tracker LR has this bumpout on the grip.

McMillan offers stocks without that, calling it a "Tall Grip" version.

My opinion is that the "Tall Grip" is the superior option, and being that there will only be one mold for Tikkas, I am sharing so that maybe we can all get on board and make the same request for the Tall Grip option and eliminate that bumpount

I'd sign a petition for that.

 

[AU.MASHnKS]

I have small hands compared to most, so the tall grip is not a need for me. Also someone smarter than me care to explain why removing this helps? In my simple mind a near vertical grip should not have your middle finger inline with the trigger?

 

[LostWapiti]

The bump out does seem very unnecessary. Gives you less flexibility but could lead to better repeatability. Since I have never tried it I don’t really have an opinion on it. As of now, I’m fine with it without it.

 

[Shortschaf]

I have small hands compared to most, so the tall grip is not a need for me. Also someone smarter than me care to explain why removing this helps? In my simple mind a near vertical grip should not have your middle finger inline with the trigger?

I have smaller hands also.

Removing the bumpout should make this circumferance smaller--making it easier for my Jr Whopper hands to get a grip around this area when manipulating the rifle

Full disclosure, I have not owned a rifle with the bumpout before either. Maybe I would like it, but if given the choice now Id rather stick with what I know

 

[SDHNTR]

That trigger bump is unnecessary. Literally no one likes it. Not sure why McM even bothers. I have a couple Game Warden LR TG stocks (because I need to clean my rifles so the Mountain Tracker won’t work for me), and have never understood the trigger bump. I tried and it just feels awkward.

 

[khuber84]

That trigger bump is unnecessary. Literally no one likes it. Not sure why McM even bothers. I have a couple Game Warden LR TG stocks (because I need to clean my rifles so the Mountain Tracker won’t work for me), and have never understood the trigger bump. I tried and it just feels awkward.

What does the trigger bump do that affects you negatively? I have 4 McMillan stock with the bump, I don't even notice it. The tall grip? Unnecessary, my hands measure 10" from pinky to thumb, and the bump grip is fine. You guys are complaining about nothing. You have 2 options here, wait for a rokstok, or buy a McMillan. If the trigger bump scares you, then don't buy it!

 

[SDHNTR]

What does the trigger bump do that affects you negatively? I have 4 McMillan stock with the bump, I don't even notice it. The tall grip? Unnecessary, my hands measure 10" from pinky to thumb, and the bump grip is fine. You guys are complaining about nothing. You have 2 options here, wait for a rokstok, or buy a McMillan. If the trigger bump scares you, then don't buy it!

It just feels awkward. Like something that shouldn’t be there. I suppose I could get used to it, but I don’t have to as there is an option to not have it, at least with the stocks I am interested in.

Don’t get me wrong, I would love to try a mountain tracker also, but like I said, I need to clean my barrels periodically, and I’m not taking it out of the stock each time to do so,so it’s not a model for me.

 

[waspocrew]

I haven’t held one personally, but it wasn’t something that ever concerned me. I’d be fine either way.