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Maven RS1 2.5 x 15x44 Drop test Proof Maven may be telling the truth ...........
My review of the original Maven RS1 2.5x15x44. This scope was purchased by me 3 years ago and was intended to be my final be all scope since I could not find a S&B Klassik in stock. I am shooting on my land off a bench to a target 107 yards away.
I previously did a drop test with this scope and rifle combo early this spring. The results were promising; however, I noticed a shift in the direction of the group. The group size stayed roughly the same, but the group shifted up and to the left. I casually played country dumb with a question to “Form” after that and he indicated the shift was likely due to a mounting issue. As everything was degreased with acetone, blue loctited and with a paint penned in place I did not see how it was possible. There was no breakage of the paint. (Action screws were not painted- they could have been the issue) Regardless, I decided to epoxy the rail to the action with Loctite 380. I believe this kept the group from shifting on this test.
The rifle is a bone stock Bergara Ridge SP 6.5 Creed, Warne rail and rings. Triggered adjusted to avg 2.2 lbs based on my scale. TBAC 7 for the suppressor. Suppressor stayed on for the first portion then was removed and reattached for the final portion. I am shooting off bags on a homemade bench. Weather is unbearably hot and humid with sweat pouring off my head without a bandana or cap. No noticeable wind as the grass or individual leaves were not moving until the very final portion of this test. Then the wind picked up to 5-10 as it would move finger size branches. Given the distance I really didn’t feel that wind played into the situation.
The media is costal and prairie grass on a ½” gym mat that is at least 12 years old and been in my garage in front of the bench. Drops were conducted from knee and waist high. I am 6’0.
Starting group with this rifle was 1.33” which is better than average as it normally runs 1.5-1.7 with this ammo. Winchester 125 OT Range. I started shooting well, but quickly faded as diabetes plays havoc on my eyes and I suffer fatigue quickly.
First three 18” drops shots (#1,2,3) showed no change in the system. The first 36” drop (left side #4) showed movement down and to the left, however I know I pulled it. Then the 36” (top #5) drop was fine, then the 36” drop (right side# 6) was fine. I then moved to the 3 36” drops (left side #7) were in range. Then 3 36” (top #8) showed a full 1” movement to the right. I still felt that shot was my error and not the scope, I rushed it and even called it when I pulled the trigger. I then shot a second round without the drop and the #9 shot fell into the group. Three more 36” drops on (right side #10) was fine and finally 3 consecutive 36” drops (one per side) for #11. Total 15 drops and 11 shots.
I am confident the majority of the group size increasing is due to my poor shooting. I have days I am on and sometimes I just get in a hurry or focus too much on shooting an all-touching group and screw it up. If you believe I pulled the #4 & 8 shot then the group stayed within the cone. If you believe I can shoot and the scope moved then the group size increased dramatically to 3.78”.
I assume I will be skewered for the poor shooting, but have no issues calling my errors, especially when I know and FELT I made the error. To quote the great philosopher Forest Gump…… “Sometimes it happens.”
That being said I decided to go hog wild and proceeded to randomly drop the rifle 9 times consecutively from 36” and then shot 10 shots as fast I could reasonably load and shoot. This is the FINAL portion of the test. The group opened up by 3/4 “, however, this is to prove even with poor shooting the scope in my opinion is worth consideration. The impact was hard enough to leave an indentation permanently in the mat.
I would recommend the RS 1 as a set and forget scope.
I have since switched to MILS and have the RS 1.2. on my primary rifle. I am learning to dial as I spent 30 years as a set and forget MPBR shooter so more to come.
I want to thank "Form" for confirming issues I have seen with rifle systems over the years and saving me ammo and the time chasing my tail trying to figure out what is the problem. Next, I want to cuss him for me moving to MILS, throwing my scopes on the ground and spending more $ than I can afford.
My review of the original Maven RS1 2.5x15x44. This scope was purchased by me 3 years ago and was intended to be my final be all scope since I could not find a S&B Klassik in stock. I am shooting on my land off a bench to a target 107 yards away.
I previously did a drop test with this scope and rifle combo early this spring. The results were promising; however, I noticed a shift in the direction of the group. The group size stayed roughly the same, but the group shifted up and to the left. I casually played country dumb with a question to “Form” after that and he indicated the shift was likely due to a mounting issue. As everything was degreased with acetone, blue loctited and with a paint penned in place I did not see how it was possible. There was no breakage of the paint. (Action screws were not painted- they could have been the issue) Regardless, I decided to epoxy the rail to the action with Loctite 380. I believe this kept the group from shifting on this test.
The rifle is a bone stock Bergara Ridge SP 6.5 Creed, Warne rail and rings. Triggered adjusted to avg 2.2 lbs based on my scale. TBAC 7 for the suppressor. Suppressor stayed on for the first portion then was removed and reattached for the final portion. I am shooting off bags on a homemade bench. Weather is unbearably hot and humid with sweat pouring off my head without a bandana or cap. No noticeable wind as the grass or individual leaves were not moving until the very final portion of this test. Then the wind picked up to 5-10 as it would move finger size branches. Given the distance I really didn’t feel that wind played into the situation.
The media is costal and prairie grass on a ½” gym mat that is at least 12 years old and been in my garage in front of the bench. Drops were conducted from knee and waist high. I am 6’0.
Starting group with this rifle was 1.33” which is better than average as it normally runs 1.5-1.7 with this ammo. Winchester 125 OT Range. I started shooting well, but quickly faded as diabetes plays havoc on my eyes and I suffer fatigue quickly.
First three 18” drops shots (#1,2,3) showed no change in the system. The first 36” drop (left side #4) showed movement down and to the left, however I know I pulled it. Then the 36” (top #5) drop was fine, then the 36” drop (right side# 6) was fine. I then moved to the 3 36” drops (left side #7) were in range. Then 3 36” (top #8) showed a full 1” movement to the right. I still felt that shot was my error and not the scope, I rushed it and even called it when I pulled the trigger. I then shot a second round without the drop and the #9 shot fell into the group. Three more 36” drops on (right side #10) was fine and finally 3 consecutive 36” drops (one per side) for #11. Total 15 drops and 11 shots.
I am confident the majority of the group size increasing is due to my poor shooting. I have days I am on and sometimes I just get in a hurry or focus too much on shooting an all-touching group and screw it up. If you believe I pulled the #4 & 8 shot then the group stayed within the cone. If you believe I can shoot and the scope moved then the group size increased dramatically to 3.78”.
I assume I will be skewered for the poor shooting, but have no issues calling my errors, especially when I know and FELT I made the error. To quote the great philosopher Forest Gump…… “Sometimes it happens.”
That being said I decided to go hog wild and proceeded to randomly drop the rifle 9 times consecutively from 36” and then shot 10 shots as fast I could reasonably load and shoot. This is the FINAL portion of the test. The group opened up by 3/4 “, however, this is to prove even with poor shooting the scope in my opinion is worth consideration. The impact was hard enough to leave an indentation permanently in the mat.
I would recommend the RS 1 as a set and forget scope.
I have since switched to MILS and have the RS 1.2. on my primary rifle. I am learning to dial as I spent 30 years as a set and forget MPBR shooter so more to come.
I want to thank "Form" for confirming issues I have seen with rifle systems over the years and saving me ammo and the time chasing my tail trying to figure out what is the problem. Next, I want to cuss him for me moving to MILS, throwing my scopes on the ground and spending more $ than I can afford.
