Looking to relocate. New Mexico or Texas as of now

[Wprinkle]

Unsure how much of your post is in jest.

Leases can be very pricey but they can also be a bigger PIA than many HOAs. Up to the individual if the financial and time costs is worth it or not.

For your $10K per year, in 2025 I can go hunt and kill a broken horn bull oryx, axis buck, turkey, hogs, broken horn bull eland, and a red deer hind. I would have to drive around a bit but I'd not have to deal with the assorted hassles of a lease. For the $20K, I can absolutely slaughter game year round.

Folks don't have to bust the budget for whitetail. Yes, there are "$100 per inch over 120" places but there's also a ton of places to get 140"+ "cull bucks" for much less than the "120" bucks, buck/doe combination hunts, etc.

There's a lot of options at a variety of price points.

The last part is in jest but the rest is what we charge and what you get. Their are definitely probably cheaper deals. I know east Texas and small places (less than 10 sections) are a lot cheaper.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Unsure how much of your post is in jest.

Leases can be very pricey but they can also be a bigger PIA than many HOAs. Up to the individual if the financial and time costs is worth it or not.

For your $10K per year, in 2025 I can go hunt and kill a broken horn bull oryx, axis buck, turkey, hogs, broken horn bull eland, and a red deer hind. I would have to drive around a bit but I'd not have to deal with the assorted hassles of a lease. For the $20K, I can absolutely slaughter game year round.

Folks don't have to bust the budget for whitetail. Yes, there are "$100 per inch over 120" places but there's also a ton of places to get 140"+ "cull bucks" for much less than the "120" bucks, buck/doe combination hunts, etc.

There's a lot of options at a variety of price points.

Most leases in Texas are below 10k

Rules are usual pretty easy respect it as if you spent. Generations paying for it. Don’t tear up roads, leave trash, or set it on fire with truck.

even my Mulie lease was less then $10k and has elk(we rotate on bulls) and aoudad. Mulies up to 207”

There are some $20k leases(includes supplemental feed) in Texas, but you are going to be hard pressed to kill more animals any where else in US, as they are on MLD and have a plethora of tags that have to be killed to maintain carrying capacity and stay in the state management program. Also still have waterfrowl, upland, small game exotics and hogs.

Example 10k acre MLD lease was $5k a year, 10 members, 6-10 trophy buck tags, 10-20 buck management tags, and 60-90 doe tags, and we killed probably 100 plus pigs a year. More if kids got bored in summer. And unlimited exotics, we would get a few aoudad and axis show up. Whitetails topped out around 170

Whitetail season in Texas if on MLD is essentially 5 months, exotics are 365 day season.

The average Texas leasor probably spends more days afield hunting then most public land hunters, just nature of 365 day access with long liberal season and exotic 365 day seasons

 

[diamond10x]

As for texas "Pay to play" its way more than you think.. Our smaller place in central ish texas.. We charge $10,000 a gun per year. Dove, duck, Turkey, whitetail, hogs, fishing and use of the lake. Only about every 5 years is a "trophy" deer killed. The place in west texas is 72 sections, $20,000 a gun- dove, turkey, quail, blacktail, whitetail, occasional muley, aoudad and javelina. They slam "trophy" deer every year. All places are low fence. You can go on a lot of western hunts or damn near a sheep hunt for what it costs to lease a good place in Texas.

This is exactly why hunting in TX has such skewed views of what its actually like. Spend $30K a year between two leases and don't know blacktail deer don't exist in TX? Surely this part is in jest like the rest of your post...

 

[Tick]

You'll make enough money in TX to buy landowner tags in NM. Then leave as fast as you can after your hunt.

Just compare the drastically different governors of each state to see which you align with more.

 

[Wprinkle]

This is exactly why hunting in TX has such skewed views of what its actually like. Spend $30K a year between two leases and don't know blacktail deer don't exist in TX? Surely this part is in jest like the rest of your post...

Well that's a lie. They do exist in West texas.. a simple google search would have told you that.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

This is exactly why hunting in TX has such skewed views of what its actually like. Spend $30K a year between two leases and don't know blacktail deer don't exist in TX? Surely this part is in jest like the rest of your post...

IME that's not typical. I haven't done the lease game in roughly 15+ years but I know lots of people who do. Your typical place is $4k-$6k and you get year round access with sometimes 500-1000 acres per hunter. Lots of people use these leases as their year-round playgrounds that you don't have to share with the public. Personally I like to explore and see different things and go different places and some of these places have ridiculous rules so I prefer to just run around on public but there's definitely some upsides.

Keep in mind also that Texas has pretty much anything you can find elsewhere, deserts, mountains, plains, forests, coastline, anything you can think of really.

edit: I see now that I misunderstood your posts but I'll leave my reply anyway.

 

[cuerro viejo]

This is exactly why hunting in TX has such skewed views of what its actually like. Spend $30K a year between two leases and don't know blacktail deer don't exist in TX? Surely this part is in jest like the rest of your post...

Some people call mulies, blk tails. They normally have a 936 area code

 

[cuerro viejo]

Well that's a lie. They do exist in West texas.. a simple google search would have told you that.

A search of what? mule deer or Carmen Mtn WT’s?

 

[Wprinkle]

A search of what? mule deer or Carmen Mtn WT’s?

I was replying to the guy that said blacktails don't exist in Texas.

 

[cuerro viejo]

I was replying to the guy that said blacktails don't exist in Texas.

You have a 936 area code?

 

[diamond10x]

Well that's a lie. They do exist in West texas.. a simple google search would have told you that.

Sorry but they don't exist in Texas no matter how many times you say it. Google is lying to you if that's what you're basing your claim on.

 

[Wprinkle]

Sorry but they don't exist in Texas no matter how many times you say it. Google is lying to you if that's what you're basing your claim on.

I live here and shoot them dumb ass

 

[Cactus kid]

I live here and shoot them dumb ass

you shoot blacktails in texas?

 

[Wprinkle]

you shoot blacktails in texas?

Yes, down here they are genetically mutated whitetail, I've not hunted northern blacktail but I believe those are a subspecies of mule deer.

 

[Cactus kid]

Blacktails are not suppose to exist in Texas. Mule deer do. Do you know something i don't @Wprinkle ? I live in Texas as well, have hunted all over the state.

 

[atmat]

El Paso is also option but ruled that one out.

Hear me out: El Paso is not a bad place to live. Incredibly safe, very low cost of living, and much closer to the western hunting states — close enough to drive vs fly. West Texas leases are also much cheaper.

Heck, you could live in Las Cruces or Sunland Park if you wanted NM residency for hunting purposes while working in El Paso.

Source: lived there. Also lived in DFW and Central TX. Visited Houston and Albuquerque plenty.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Yes, down here they are genetically mutated whitetail, I've not hunted northern blacktail but I believe those are a subspecies of mule deer.

You are talking about Carmen Mountain Whitetails those are closer to Whitetails then Blk tails, Basically a Texas coues

 

[Cactus kid]

Yes, down here they are genetically mutated whitetail, I've not hunted northern blacktail but I believe those are a subspecies of mule deer.

first I have heard of this, would love to see some pictures if you got them. I have heard rumors of mule deer/whitetail hybrids in the childress area where I have a lease, and have seen evidence to support this. Would not suprise me if some other weird mutated hybrid deer existed in texas that i didnt know about.

 

[Cactus kid]

You are talking about Carmen Mountain Whitetails those are closer to Whitetails then Blk tails, Basically a Texas coues

lets not let the coues hunters known about the carmen mountain whitetails. Maybe we keep that to ourselves?

 

[diamond10x]

You are talking about Carmen Mountain Whitetails those are closer to Whitetails then Blk tails, Basically a Texas coues

I think he's probably referring to whitetail that have crossbred with MD that he's given a made up name to.

I'm not sure how anyone would call Carmeni's, blacktails, as those little buggers have unproportionally large white tails.