The 6.5 creedmoor is practical for anyone hunting in North America.I have nothing against a 6 creed. I just think the 6.5 is not practical for me.
The 6.5 creedmoor is practical for anyone hunting in North America.I have nothing against a 6 creed. I just think the 6.5 is not practical for me.
Oh no, somebody doesn't like my personal favorite cartridge, LIFE HANGS IN THE BALANCE.6mm creedmoor would be a no-brainer but the name might trigger you
Im so happy you have success with it.The 6.5 creedmoor is practical for anyone hunting in North America.
Thank you. What made you give two the 7-08 and the other the 308. Ballistics, recoil, etc.?All three of my kids started hunting in western Oregon and Washington. I started two of them with 7mm-.08 and one with .308. They've all shot mule deer and blacktail with them and now hunt the same rifles in SE Alaska for Sitka blacktail and black bear. The 7-08 is lower recoil but both are great for just about anyone.
As to rifle, I started them with the Savage 110. A little more expensive than some of the low end rifles but still on the low end and good quality. The 110 storm is great with the adjustable LOP.
That's what I'm saying. 6.5CM is a little less recoil than 7mm-08 but not as much less as I'd like. I'd rather run a 6.5 120 than a 7mm 120, but a 120 over 43ish grains of powder recoils about the same no matter what the head stamp says.Is 6.5 creed under 10? I’ve seen 6.5 cm at 13 foot pounds of recoil and 7-08 at like 15. Now ammo availability is another thing that’s important.
Neither me or the 5 others who have shot similar weight x-bolt 6.5 Creedmoor and 7mm-08 in rotation can tell any difference in recoil when using the same weight ammo. That's 120 gr NBT factory rounds in each and 140 gr nbt 7mm-08 vs 143 gr eld-x 6.5 Creedmoor.That's what I'm saying. 6.5CM is a little less recoil than 7mm-08 but not as much less as I'd like. I'd rather run a 6.5 120 than a 7mm 120, but a 120 over 43ish grains of powder recoils about the same no matter what the head stamp says.
A 6CM is better, and a 6mm ARC is great.
Have you found any 120nbt in 7mm in the last 2-3 years? We killed several with them when I had a 7-08 but I haven’t seen any in a long timeNeither me or the 5 others who have shot similar weight x-bolt 6.5 Creedmoor and 7mm-08 in rotation can tell any difference in recoil when using the same weight ammo. That's 120 gr NBT factory rounds in each and 140 gr nbt 7mm-08 vs 143 gr eld-x 6.5 Creedmoor.
Some are not a fan of 120s from a 7mm-08, but I can assure you that 120 gr nbt 7mm and 120 gr ttsx 7mm bullets wreck animals. The 120 gr nbt is my favorite 7mm-08 round.
My Savage 110 6.5 creedmoor kicks a little less than the x-bolts, but its a 1.5 pound heavier overall rig. Heavier rifle and heavier scope.
I bought 4 boxes of factory loaded 7mm-08 a few months back. I'll see if I can find where if you are wanting some. I see the 7mm 120nbt just bullets fairly often.Have you found any 120nbt in 7mm in the last 2-3 years? We killed several with them when I had a 7-08 but I haven’t seen any in a long time
I’m out of the 7mm game these days, but I know for a long time they were unobtainable. Several guys on another forum swear by them and got me on them for a time.I bought 4 boxes of factory loaded 7mm-08 a few months back. I'll see if I can find where if you are wanting some. I see the 7mm 120nbt just bullets fairly often.
I've only been using 7mm-08s for about 10 years, but have never had much of a problem finding them online. Midway has the factory loaded 7mm-08 120nbt in stock now, but they are 50 bucks a box. I usually pay $35ish and look for the sweet spot on how many boxes vs shipping cost.I’m out of the 7mm game these days, but I know for a long time they were unobtainable. Several guys on another forum swear by them and got me on them for a time.
I'm not sure what that means, but you seem to be overly emotional about inanimate objects.Oh no, somebody doesn't like my personal favorite cartridge, LIFE HANGS IN THE BALANCE.
I have experience with that bullet. The 120 NBT was the bullet I loaded for my son's 7mm-08. Reliable killer, but not very impressive wounds in my experience. No specific complaints about that bullet, I've just had a gradual shift toward lighter recoiling rifles for kids. I agree that a 6.5CM isn't going to have a substantially different recoil characteristic with like bullet weights.Neither me or the 5 others who have shot similar weight x-bolt 6.5 Creedmoor and 7mm-08 in rotation can tell any difference in recoil when using the same weight ammo. That's 120 gr NBT factory rounds in each and 140 gr nbt 7mm-08 vs 143 gr eld-x 6.5 Creedmoor.
Some are not a fan of 120s from a 7mm-08, but I can assure you that 120 gr nbt 7mm and 120 gr ttsx 7mm bullets wreck animals. The 120 gr nbt is my favorite 7mm-08 round.
My Savage 110 6.5 creedmoor kicks a little less than the x-bolts, but its a 1.5 pound heavier overall rig. Heavier rifle and heavier scope.
The 140gr nbt splatter a bigger wound track, but the thicker jacket 120 gr usually penetrate better from what I've seen.I have experience with that bullet. The 120 NBT was the bullet I loaded for my son's 7mm-08. Reliable killer, but not very impressive wounds in my experience. No specific complaints about that bullet, I've just had a gradual shift toward lighter recoiling rifles for kids. I agree that a 6.5CM isn't going to have a substantially different recoil characteristic with like bullet weights.
I have no experience with the 2nd gen Ruger American rifles, but I've owned and shot many calibers in the original Ruger American line. All of them kicked hard per caliber, in my opinion. Maybe the stocks just don't fit me, but compared to the other rifles I routinely shoot, the RAs were stout. It wasn't just because the RA was light, as I have many rifles in the 6 pound bare range.idk what’s available locally for you and what cartridges you’ve currently ruled out for other reasons but I’d say ruger american in 243 or 6 creed or 6.5 creed or even something in 6 arc would work based on what I’ve read on here. Eldms are fantastic that’s based on personal use that I decided to try because of what I read on this thread.
Thank you.That's what I'm saying. 6.5CM is a little less recoil than 7mm-08 but not as much less as I'd like. I'd rather run a 6.5 120 than a 7mm 120, but a 120 over 43ish grains of powder recoils about the same no matter what the head stamp says.
A 6CM is better, and a 6mm ARC is great
I will look for these. Thank you Ken and pickettpuncher.I bought 4 boxes of factory loaded 7mm-08 a few months back. I'll see if I can find where if you are wanting some. I see the 7mm 120nbt just bullets fairly often.
Another consideration is frontal diameter. I'll sacrifice the high B.C. bullets of the 6.5CM for larger bullets of the 7-08. Just watched Joseph Von Benedikt talk about elk cartridges and he made a point about frontal diameter.The 140gr nbt splatter a bigger wound track, but the thicker jacket 120 gr usually penetrate better from what I've seen.
I like the added penetration because my 7mm-08s are usually getting shot by kids or fairly inexperienced ladies. The shot angles and/or placement often aren’t ideal. Heck my shooting these days is nowhere near perfect either