I owned pretty much all Kuiu gear for years then they started to blow up and apparently they couldn't keep to transparency commitment and any criticizing. The 1st gen tent that they pulled and would never address the issue was a huge lack of transparency. Along with anytime anyone said a SG or Kifaru pack was better on the Kuiu forum got instantly deleted and eventually ended with Kuiu shutting down their public forum. FYI I have owned all the packs and SG and Kifaru make the best frames and suspension period. In person all the Kuiu guys at say the SLC show were super nice in the beginning but as they grew so did the way they interacted with people at the shows from my experience. As for FL the Idaho hipster hunter movement is super annoying. But they have top notch CS and replaced boxers that had ripped for free no questions asked. Either way most my system is Sitka with some FL. As for attack pants I like them but the FL guide are a bit better. Or just rock the Sitka timberline pants which I love.