AZ_Hunter_2000
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dB levels compared to other clothes?
As quiet as anything I have found that is windstopper. I am a 10 yard stickbow guy so very particular about noise.dB levels compared to other clothes?
Asking since the NIOSH app is free.As quiet as anything I have found that is windstopper. I am a 10 yard stickbow guy so very particular about noise.
Rule #1: NEVER HIKE IN A PUFFY. You will be miserable as soon as you stop.View attachment 467129
Well we had 40+mph winds all night and a colder morning. This morning the temp was 30-35° with light winds. Tried a saddle for the first time and it really goes nicely over the proximity pants, the leg straps tucked up high enough that I could still get in the zippers no problem.
I was absolutely cooking. I had a cheap Walmart synthetic thermal top on, the Ultra Down jacket then the proximity and from the climbing I was absolutely soaking wet. Didn’t really cool down after 2hrs. Just stayed hot. I probably could’ve undone the pit zips but with how wet things were, I thought that would be a bad idea. My complaints on this? The ultra down is LOUD!
Anyways, this isn’t the last trip out this fall. Still have a few tags that I intend to try to fill out of a tree. So once again hopefully I will have some much better info and if this fall will cooperate, hopefully I can get some better adverse conditions to test in.
That's disappointing to here about the wind resistance. If you can push air through it's not wind proof. The big bad wolf who ate the 3 little pigs couldn't push air through the Stratus and Fanatic. It feels like you're trying to blow air through a garbage bag. You can't do it. If thats the case I'm sending back the proximity set when it arrives this weekI just received my Proximity set this week and really looking forward to getting into the field with this gear. As with any online order, you really don’t know what you’re getting until it shows up, but I’m happily impressed now that I’ve got it in hand.
I did go to check out the Sitka Fanatic and Stratus for comparisons sake last night. I would suggest the Proximity is closer to the Fanatic in thickness, but definitely in between the two pieces of Sitka gear. I plan to be in the stand with it tomorrow and will comment from in the field use. I can tell you that I start sweating quickly with it on in my house. I expect this will get me into the teens with 1-2 base layers and comfortable into the 40s-50s without.
Kuiu markets this as “highly wind resistant”. I am able to blow through the fabric, but it’s not easy. My FL solitude is probably 2x easier to blow through, and FL Catalyst is comparably like blowing through cheesecloth. I didn’t try to blow through the Sitka gear, so I’m curious if that is truly impossible to push air through. Can anyone confirm? I really do think this Kuiu Proximity gear will hold up to some stiff winds… looking forward to verifying it.
So I received my Kuiu in the mail and have been looking it over. Here are my initial thoughts on things. I am 5 11” and 170 for reference. I hope some of the photos show in a little better detail some of the features. Here is a photo of the whole setup.
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The hat is their Wind Pro Beanie, Wind Pro Neck Gaiter, the Proximity Jacket, the Proximity Pants, Axis Gloves.
Lets start with the beanie. I have a fat head and their XL is a nice going to stay on my head but not give me a headache fit. Including when I’ve got a bit longer hair. This reminds me of the Under Armor fleece beanies. It doesn’t let wind come through, we had some 40mph winds earlier today and I couldn’t feel it on my head. It is also thin enough that my hearing did not seem overly impaired. I think once it actually gets cold out, the trade off in warmth to my ears versus hearing will be worth it.
Working our way down, I love the neck gaiter. I think that the holes cut out to breathe through are awesome. I don’t have glasses but I imagine this might help with some of the lense fogging that occurs once the mercury dives. The cinch in the back is a little hard to loosen one handed but it seems like it’ll be set and forget, especially with the wire in the nose that you can form to the bridge of your nose. The gaiter fits nicely into the jacket and seems like it’ll go down over the neck if I want to wear paint instead. It is the same thickness as the beanie.
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Moving down to the jacket, there is a lot to like. First and foremost, it doesn’t feel cheap like the Cabelas fleece that used to be a thing. It is thick and it really feels like there’s some heft to it. I think it is plenty quiet to pull a bow back and the sleeves are slim enough that there’s not a lot of excess. The jacket fits very very well. Not too baggy, I don’t feel there’s a need to size up unless I wanted to maybe double up on a sweatshirt and down.
I tend to get very cold quickly. A light sweatshirt outside below 60 can sometimes not be enough. I was able to fit s Super Down Ultra in the same size underneath which really turned this thing into a furnace. I will note that doing this made the jacket substantially louder than without it. The jacket is so quiet that I can hear the crinkling of the down jacket over whatever sound the proximity jacket is making. It’s about 50 and rainy out and I was getting quite warm in it. I think this piece will really come into play when things drop below 45 degrees.
Here are some of the features I like
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Gear loop in both front chest pockets. These will get used quite a bit for a grunt call and a rangefinder. I can see using it in turkey season too for similar reasons.
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The drop pockets are awesome, there is one on each side. I love to throw thinner gloves or handwarmers into these
The so I am happy to see it on this jacket.
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The cuffs are pretty tight on this. Wearing a big watch might be difficult, but I was able to get the gloves slid between the fleece and the elastic sleeve. Itll really be nice once the snow flies for keeping melting snow out and off my arm.
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It is a double zipper and I’m actually not a fan in this case. With the piece of cloth that folds over the bottom zipper it can be a real pain. I know it’s just nit picking at this point but perhaps I will learn to love it.
On the gloves, I have the Axis and they fit nicely with the rest of the stuff. I don’t really have much to say about them until I’m freezing in a tree with them. They might be a little bit too neoprene like to be my preferred gloves with the bow.
As others have stated, the Proximity pants are more like bibs. I love them. They are true to fit, very very warm and they sit a bit higher than my other pants and even cover up my back a little bit. The suspenders can be removed easily if needed but I don’t see myself doing that. If you wear a layer under the jacket, you will probably want to tuck it into the pants with the suspender of wear them over the straps. The real awesome part of these I think are the pockets. I no longer have to fight my regular pants pockets and hope my phone doesnt take a header off the ground below.View attachment 455164
The pockets also expand via magnet. Note that the vertical and horizontal pockets are two separate pockets, not two ways to get into the same compartment. These might be dangerous since I’ll just end up loading them up, I can also see handwarmers going into these.
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The pants have a zipper up top and a zipper on the bottom where you can snap a flap over it. They advertise them as able to be worn over rubber boots. I can confirm that Muck Wetlands fit under these but I’m not sure how much girthier you would want of a boot to put the pants over. Also not sure I will do that because I think I would fall out of the tree in bulky boots, Ground blind though? No problem.
So all in all, I think this will be a pretty awesome setup. I will likely update this as I use them in an actual hunting scenario here. My plans for the year include hunting my home state here in WY once things cool down a bit, and I have some hunting planned in the Upper Peninsula in November where I really (don’t) hope to put them to the test in the wind and possibly a good amount of snow.
If anyone has any questions, let me know and I’ll take a look at my stuff and see if I can answer. I know I wish there was a little bit more info out on them but at this point I’m just happy to have them for the fall.
How's the packability on the jacket? I hunt primarily eastern plains deer and at times walk quite a ways in to a natural ground blind, pinch points, or spot/stalk. Can the jacket be rolled up and stuffed in a large day pack without taking too much room? Or it's just too bulky and best to just strap it down to the outside of the pack? Thanks