Kids rifle...again.

I love the KISS approach. The photo of the pillars going all the way through the stock is great to know that you can cut to any LOP and have material to drill and screw the pad back into.
Yeah you can get back to at least 10" with the holes still lining up.

I've found that's too short.

11" seems as short as you may want to go unless you're putting toddlers on a Tikka.

The Tikka pad has waffle type support in it so if you chose to grind it to fit you would have to cover your tracks with wrap or tape. I stopped at "good nuff".
 
Yeah you can get back to at least 10" with the holes still lining up.

I've found that's too short.

11" seems as short as you may want to go unless you're putting toddlers on a Tikka.
Good to know. I've cut other stocks down to 11" but not a Tikka stock that short. I have a spare one lying around that I'll reduce as a subcompact for my youngest to use before the 12.5" compact stock fits.
 
My 2 cents...

I've worked with several small year old shooters. My own 10 yr old daughter filled her first big game tag this fall with my ULUL (StraightPull AR15 223rem). Other kids have used my 6creed in an hnt26 stock.

A couple points:

1. Any chassis that has the buffertube style threads (even the hnt26 has an adapter you can use) can take all types of buffertube based stocks. There are also aftermarket folder adapters to put on if that is your jam. I make my own lightweight buffertube stocks with carbon tubes, and can make them any length necessary.

2. There is nothing lighter-weight than a straight pull AR15 (I got mine down to 2.25lbs), and not a lot that is cheaper. A 2.25lb bare rifle ends up being about 4lbs all up, including scope, suppressor, ammo, and even a small tripod. Having a package this lightweight is way easier for small kids to get used to holding a rifle in conventional shooting positions.

3. The bolt action (straight pull) AR15 is quieter than the gas operation of the semi auto.
 

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I like the ultralight ar route. If for nothing else a fun gun for everyone. Id be more inclined to keep it gassed and in the 6-7lb range all said and done. Likely wearing a swfa ultralight with the msr reticle. If any of you have build suggestions for that, shoot.
Here's what I did. Its a sweet little (cough long 😅) gun. Shoots great. Took it to 620 over Thanksgiving. 16" plate was boring. Ive also done a 3 gun match with it and did well. The lightweight components have been somewhat tricky. I dont get consistent lock back, but for a hunting gun who cares (ive got other guns if 30 round mag dumps in combat scenarios are the order of the day 😅).

My thought was...why do a bolt 223 when I can do an ar thats lighter...then go run it hard in 3 guns and enjoy it on occasion. And if they'll ever drop some 77 gr tmks in nas3 cases I'll get near creedmoor velocity with the 20". The BH 77 gr at 2790 are pretty nasty though! Debated going with a 22 arc, but the 16" barrels weighed more then the criterion core 20" 556.

It was a joy to carry in arizona while scouting this year.

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From a flexibility standpoint, it’s hard to beat a collapsible ar style stock. Both my girls started on a mp22 and progressed to other mostly pink rifles. They never got too interested but both can shoot well.
 
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