Justice Alito "cooks" (literally!) BATFE "ghost gun" rule!

[maxx075]

Federal government needs completely dissolved. They've shown time and time again to be completely incompetent.

 

[mt terry d]

Federal government needs completely dissolved. They've shown time and time again to be completely incompetent.

Actually it's extremely competent in doing what all governments do.
It does need to go away. But it won't. Too many people like it because it
gives them stuff taken from others. Sadly the arguments are mainly about who
it's taken from and who it's given to, instead of what gives anyone the right to
arbitrarily take anyone's money or property under threat of violence in the first place.

 

[hereinaz]

Hell, it started right off with Washington and the Whiskey rebellion.

Should have just kept the Articles of Confederation but the
Lovers of Government couldn't stand for that.

But we pretend we're freeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

Remember to vote really hard this time kids

Vote EARLY and OFTEN!!!

 

[Swamp Fox]

I used to gg et all anxious and worried about new gun laws. I honestly don't care anymore. I don't even pay attention to any of them. I will not comply.ever

I never heard of such a thing ... Just for the record.

 

[Swamp Fox]

 

[Amos Keeto]

Thanks, not having a serial # isn't important to me, so I guess I'd never be interested in an 80%. Is it common to not want a serial #? Seems odd that you'd want an Ar without one. Surely all your other guns have them, but not an AR? Silly imo.

"Ghost guns" aren't all AR's. There are semi auto handguns that can be purchased and completed.
As for serial numbers, to keep track of "when" a firearm was built, I'm all for it. But to use that S/N to track who owns, buys, sells or trades, I find a bit unnerving!

An 80% lower is more expensive than a completed, stripped lower with a S/N.
By the time you pay an FFL a transfer fee, the price is about the same.

First off, I'm not a "gunsmith". It's an itch I was never able to scratch.....until AR's came along. Especially the "buy parts and assemble" concept came about.
It really pleases me to be able to "assemble" (build?) my own rifle from scratch and actually shoot it.
As for 80% lowers, they offer an added aspect to further that "gunsmith" feeling. Drilling the holes that are used to pin an AR together. The fact that there is no S/N on the gun is just another facet that appeals to some.

So, if you're a "tinker'er", AR's and 80% lowers are the cat's meow.

BTW! A complete AR from a reputable company is normally "cheaper" than a DIY build. The DIY only offers a picky shooter the ability to add whatever little doodads or geegaws they desire.

 

[elkliver]

News articles always refer to 80 % lowers as "kits" that can be easily assembled. I really think someone should hand a reporter one and say, "go ahead and assemble this kit" The stupidity level is astounding

 

[HuntHarder]

News articles always refer to 80 % lowers as "kits" that can be easily assembled. I really think someone should hand a reporter one and say, "go ahead and assemble this kit" The stupidity level is astounding

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I mean..... Aren't they pretty easy? After recently learning about these, I know a few guys at work who have completed a few. Didn't sound like they struggled at all.....

 

[maxx075]

The Elite Builder Patriot 80% Lower Jig - AR9/AR10/AR15

The destination for everything gun parts, equipping you with the AR-15 parts and handgun parts needed to complete your DIY build. Shop today and plan your weekend build!

www.gunbuilders.com

I mean..... Aren't they pretty easy? After recently learning about these, I know a few guys at work who have completed a few. Didn't sound like they struggled at all.....

Hard part is milling the trigger pocket thoroughly and correctly to get the right tolerances so that you don't have any cycling/function issues. It still requires some "specialized" tools and time. Not just as easy as buying a kit and putting it together. There is actually removal of metal that has to happen.

 

[Dos Perros]

Hard part is milling the trigger pocket thoroughly and correctly to get the right tolerances so that you don't have any cycling/function issues. It still requires some "specialized" tools and time. Not just as easy as buying a kit and putting it together. There is actually removal of metal that has to happen.

I agree, I don't think it's easy. I say this as an engineer with almost 20 years of manufacturing experience.