Joe Rogan and Pot

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In the interest of conversation and especially civility (no need to name call or propagandize) what are everyone's thoughts on his mix as a burgeoning public voice for hunting and his very open position on cannabis?

I don’t think there’s any issue. They seem mutually exclusive to me. And I’m sure there’s a bunch of hunters who like to take a toke every now and then. There’s definitely a lot of drinking going on in the hunting world. Glad he’s bringing more people into hunting. I think he’s full of shit when he says letting someone know a spot his buddy showed him is no big deal. But then again he’s not a normal person and has been handed the vest parts of this culture because of who he is. That said no issue with weed.


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Ok,you're going in for surgery(lets say a vasectomy) and you notice as your going under a distinct smell of herb and glazed eyes on your doctor.
Do you have time to worry now?
Ha!

It would be far more worse if your surgeon was drunk ! There is a time and place for both. Weed is far better then alcohol, I know as I have done, and do both from time to time. When I drink to much, I like many get 10 foot and bullet proof. When high I chill, I don’t want to be noticed, cause a scene, or start trouble. I don’t think either should be legal, but if your going to make one illegal my definite first choice would be alcohol.
 

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Pot is a mess. It’s never solved a problem, yet has caused a few. The scramble for stronger and stronger pot should tell you that it’s not a benign substance. While it might not “technically” be addictive, the growing appetite for it sure indicates an awful lot of people are looking to lose their minds in a major way.

Pot is a symptom of a much larger problem in our society.
If you believe the CDC and other agencies, then pot can be addictive to some and cause many other problems. Our society is getting dumber and increasingly wants to escape reality. When adults want to escape reality that's ok we me, so long as I don't have to pick up the pieces by paying more taxes or subsidizing them and their families, doesn't matter if it's from alchohol or pot, or other addictions. Pot is becoming stronger and kids shouldn't get involved with it, same as alchohol, and cigarettes.
 
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If you believe the CDC and other agencies, then pot can be addictive to some and cause many other problems. Our society is getting dumber and increasingly wants to escape reality. When adults want to escape reality that's ok we me, so long as I don't have to pick up the pieces by paying more taxes or subsidizing them and their families, doesn't matter if it's from alchohol or pot, or other addictions. Pot is becoming stronger and kids shouldn't get involved with it, same as alchohol, and cigarettes.

Yup. The pot of today bears NO resemblance to that of the 1960s. Hybridization and processing has turned the stuff into a literal monster. The fact is we don’t have long-term studies with modern pot because it just hasn’t been around in popular use that long. Wait a decade and well look back and wonder why in the hell we let that monster out of the box.
 

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It would be far more worse if your surgeon was drunk ! There is a time and place for both. Weed is far better then alcohol, I know as I have done, and do both from time to time. When I drink to much, I like many get 10 foot and bullet proof. When high I chill, I don’t want to be noticed, cause a scene, or start trouble. I don’t think either should be legal, but if your going to make one illegal my definite first choice would be alcohol.
I've heard people say they drive better drunk, because they get real cautious and drive more carefully. Drunk, stoned, high, or impaired are all unacceptable for any surgeon performing surgery on me!!!
 

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Yup. The pot of today bears NO resemblance to that of the 1960s. Hybridization and processing has turned the stuff into a literal monster. The fact is we don’t have long-term studies with modern pot because it just hasn’t been around in popular use that long. Wait a decade and well look back and wonder why in the hell we let that monster out of the box.
Leaning very Libertarian I'm generally against more laws and regulations. I believe people should have the right to do what they want without hurting others. Like many here have said or implied alcohol abuse has a much bigger and longer list of casualties than probably any other drug. I agree our society should play down our dependence on alcohol, but disagree that we encourage other drugs and addictions. Our role models are a reflection of our society. Just because someone is famous and influential for hunting and/or gun rights shouldn't mean everything else is out the window. I like Randy and Steve as role models. I'd MUCH rather give up hunting than my core values/beliefs, and Constitution guaranteed liberties and freedoms.
 
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Get used to it. Weed prohibition is dying. Pot is only “fully illegal” in 9 states now. Most LEOs I know around me are happy not to have to bother with it in most cases anymore. State governments are seeing the tax revenue rolling in and they are all pushing for legalizing it. Just too much $ to leave it under the table.

Just last night on our local news.
 
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Why risk an addiction? It should be used for medical purposes only in my opinion.
I am by no means an authority on marijuana, but I am, and have been a ICU nurse now for almost 25 years, and in all those years I have never once taken care of a patient that was "addicted" to marijuana. Becoming physically addicted to marijuana is impossible, in so much as displaying physical withdrawals when not having access to the substance. This is not to say that a person can't or won't become mentally addicted (people can become mentally addicted to anything), but physical addition has never been documented. Also, there has never been documentation of a person dyeing of a marijuana overdose. By way of comparison, there is rarely a work day that goes by that I don't see the negative effects of alcohol, in one way or another, and I have taken care of countless people that ended up dying as a direct result of alcohol abuse/misuse. As bad as marijuana can be for some people, alcohol is many, many times worse, and a society, government, or what ever that imposes harsh punishments for use of one and not the other, is complete insanity IMO.
 
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There are different types of addiction and dependency. For those who think weed is completely free of these is not being completely honest. Its different, like the others previously mentioned, but it does cause dependency. Dope sick? Hell no, not anything like the hard drugs.

The intoxicating effects dont bother me so much. But several studies I've read about discuss chemical long term changes in the brain, lower testosterone, decreased motivation and higher occurance if certain psychological disorders.

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Over the last ~5 years, my drinking has really dropped off considerably. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy a cold beer at the right moment as much as the next guy and I love bourbon. Sometimes, drinking is necessary
BUT, starting about 5 years ago, alcohol really started negatively effecting my sleep and that effect continues to get worse. I’m pretty much limited to two drinks these days unless I’m willing to concede a night to absolute shitty sleep. As a result, drinking tends to much more scaled back. Maybe once a week, maybe a little more in the winter (ski resort drinking) and a little less during the summer.

Marijuana, though, is a great substitute for drinking. In its modern form, you can get exactly the right strain for whatever it is you want: super high productivity, sleep aid, pain reliever, migraine, relaxation etc and you can get it in the exact dose you need to take the Edge off, find the motivation to clean the garage, mundane data entry, help with insomnia etc. for a guy like myself, this is ideal as it’s cheap and effective and if I have to go to a full throttle social affair where alcohol is social, taking a couple of cans of 10 mg of sativa infused THC seltzer water is a great way to be in a socially interactive mood and I don’t feel the least bit compelled to drink alcohol. I “go out”, have a good time and I get a great nights sleep. I’ve gone a full year without using any THC products in the last 3 years and sometimes I’ll use it daily for a couple of days at a time. Just depends on what the demands of life are at the moment. I realize some people go too far with it and it is a problem for some people, but I feel my use is responsible as well as ethically and morally defensible. I don’t have anyone in my social network who would be described as a stoner. Quite the opposite: high functioning people who use marijuana appropriately to enhance their quality of life. If you don’t use it that way, we probably won’t be friends. I don’t have any drunks in my social life either -got no use for them.
 

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A hospital nurse isn’t going to mention cannabinoid hyperemesis? They must keep you insulated in icu because it’s pretty awesome in the er. Must be a local thing here. Very common since legalization and it’s the same patients over and over again. No insurance no problem it’s all part of the economy now so who cares.
 
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A hospital nurse isn’t going to mention cannabinoid hyperemesis? They must keep you insulated in icu because it’s pretty awesome in the er. Must be a local thing here. Very common since legalization and it’s the same patients over and over again. No insurance no problem it’s all part of the economy now so who cares.
Nope, never even heard of it, a quick Google search did come up with this though.

Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome (CHS) is a condition that leads to repeated and severe bouts of vomiting. It is rare and only occurs in daily long-term users of marijuana.

When you say "awesome", do you mean in the way it presents itself, or do you mean the number of incidences that it's presenting to your ED?
I absolutely don't believe that marijuana is benign, I don't think anything is benign when done in excess, but it absolutely is much less so, when compared to alcohol.
 

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Recent studies show under age use deceasing in Colorado since legalization. Vaping on the other hands is out of control.
 
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