Is there a 16oz or lighter FFP scope that passes the drop test

[Speaks]

Title is pretty self explanatory. Is there a FFP mil/mil scope 16 oz or less that passes the drop test? If not I will stick with SWAFA 3-9 but wanted to double check if there are any other options to look at. If its not 16oz or better the juice is not worth the squeeze to try. Would be ok with either variable or fixed if it was close to fixed 6.

 

[Shortschaf]

3-9 Huron passed (16oz). Id say a 3-9 accupoint would be a safe bet too (13oz)
Swfa ultralite seemed okish in the drop eval (9oz)

You lose the dialability and FFP compared to the swfa 3-9 though. And the swfa ultralite doesnt sound that appealing glass-wise.

I was happy with the Huron's quality on my old man's rifle for a no frills 1" tubed sfp

 

[Mule3006Elk]

Doesn't answer your question but I just had a scope lose zero during hunting season. That scope is gone. I took the weight penalty and went with a scope known to hold zero (NF). I don't want to experience another failed scope during hunting season. None are guaranteed but some are less likely.

 

[Speaks]

3-9 Huron passed (16oz). Id say a 3-9 accupoint would be a safe bet too (13oz)
Swfa ultralite seemed okish in the drop eval (9oz)

You lose the dialability and FFP compared to the swfa 3-9 though. And the swfa ultralite doesnt sound that appealing glass-wise.

I was happy with the Huron's quality on my old man's rifle for a no frills 1" tubed sfp

Huron would be cool but its sfp, I do most of my shooting backed off from max. SWFA UL might work but its only in MOA.

If I was less set on FFP and Mil/Mil it would be easy to find.

 

[Speaks]

Doesn't answer your question but I just had a scope lose zero during hunting season. That scope if gone. I took the weight penalty and went with a scope known to hold zero (NF). I don't want to experience another failed scope during hunting season. None are guaranteed but some are less likely.

Yea that is my top priority and the SWFA 3-9 is fine. Just seeing if there are other options a touch lighter. I dont think there are though.

 

[grfox92]

Doesn't answer your question but I just had a scope lose zero during hunting season. That scope is gone. I took the weight penalty and went with a scope known to hold zero (NF). I don't want to experience another failed scope during hunting season. None are guaranteed but some are less likely.

I have actually been hearing quite a bit about Nightforce scopes losing zero, everywhere except rokslide.

Zero personal experience, I have never owned one. But I know someone personally who has had two different Nightforce fail, and he knows what hes doing.

Ive also heard on some of the long range forums quite a few guys claiming they had NF failures. This is second hand knowledge and alot of Fuds on those LR forums, but it's interesting.

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[Mule3006Elk]

I have actually been hearing quite a bit about Nightforce scopes losing zero, everywhere except rokslide.

Zero personal experience, I have never owned one. But I know someone personally who has had two different Nightforce fail, and he knows what hes doing.

Ive also heard on some of the long range forums quite a few guys claiming they had NF failures. This is second hand knowledge and alot of Fuds on those LR forums, but it's interesting.

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No good. Hopefully less likely than my prior Vortex.

 

[BLJ]

SWFA UL might work but its only in MOA.

Are these FFP? I always assumed SFP.

 

[SloppyJ]

I have actually been hearing quite a bit about Nightforce scopes losing zero, everywhere except rokslide.

Zero personal experience, I have never owned one. But I know someone personally who has had two different Nightforce fail, and he knows what hes doing.

Ive also heard on some of the long range forums quite a few guys claiming they had NF failures. This is second hand knowledge and alot of Fuds on those LR forums, but it's interesting.

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Did all of those people switch to a mark 5 leupold after their nightforce "failed"? I haven't seen these claims but all scopes can have failures and/or lose zero. I have all of the faith in the world in all of my nightforce products and I'm not easy on my equipment.

 

[Macintosh]

I have FAITH in Murphy. I am CYNICAL about the reliability of most things. I have “statistical optimism” that certain things are less likely to fail.

 

[Weldor]

Unicorn, SWFA looks like the only one. I like mine , but at 65 my vision is not what they used to be. At 400 and 500 plus seems like I am limited. I have the 3x15 Gen II on my 280 AI a little heavier but helps me out for longer shot's.

 

[Truck24hr]

Are you set on a variable piwer scope?

 

[Wrench]

I have actually been hearing quite a bit about Nightforce scopes losing zero, everywhere except rokslide.

Zero personal experience, I have never owned one. But I know someone personally who has had two different Nightforce fail, and he knows what hes doing.

Ive also heard on some of the long range forums quite a few guys claiming they had NF failures. This is second hand knowledge and alot of Fuds on those LR forums, but it's interesting.

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I had enough people tell me I was full of shit because I claimed to have puked a NF that I made a youtube vid to show it rattle. My second one didn't rattle when shook but you could hear the turret binding and grinding when moved.

 

[Speaks]

Are you set on a variable piwer scope?

Nope totally open to fixed power as well. Something like fixed 6 would be great. I know the swfa fixed 6 isnt any lighter than the 3-9 but I am sure that is not the case with other brands. Just have not found one yet that is mil and passes the drop test at that weight.

 

[justinspicher]

My nightforce NX8 1-8x has survived a ton of falls and drops, including a fall out of treestand at roughly 30 feet.

Can night force fail, probably. Do they fail? Not often.

I would say this true of most upper end scopes, but I quit using vortex and Luepold because it was more common in my experience and both companies always fixed whatever I broke. It was just a hassle to have to do it.

 

[Formidilosus]

I had enough people tell me I was full of shit because I claimed to have puked a NF that I made a youtube vid to show it rattle. My second one didn't rattle when shook but you could hear the turret binding and grinding when moved.

No one told you that you were full of shit. Peoole did state that it’s extremely odd and u likely- and that’s factual. Also, if I remember correctly it was me that stated that if it lost zero as you say it did- then it would be rattling; that’s when you checked and made the video. People asked for information, yet you are posting in bunches of threads this same “I was told I was full of shit” statement. Not sure what the deal is with you trying to turn it into something it wasn’t.

Can you show in this thread where people said you were “full of shit”- because it seems like exactly the opposite, and you stated that you break bunches of scopes in the same use-

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Thread 'Aaaaaaaaand I killed another scope'

Dec 24, 2024

I built a 6XC this year with all the right stuff and I managed to get the 6mm TAP's to shoot really well for about 300 rounds.

I am hunting on a depredation elk hunt and had a 100yd shot broadside, standing still, on the bipod.....everything perfect.....and I 100% did not kill an elk.

I heard the shot land, although we're shooting elk #160 of 200 to walk by so the ground is mud and could have been the impact....dunno.

At the time I assumed this elk would be laying dead in about 50 yards.....but no deal. I tracked the elk for over a mile and given the number in the herd there was not...

• Wrench
• Replies: 128
• Forum: Optics

You also are failing to state what is causing it, that you apparently refuse to address it, and that probably no other scopes save a NF milspec would constantly survive it either.

The other side is while the NX8 overall is probably better in durability and reliability than anyone else’s scopes, they are the NF with the most issues- that’s been stated by me (and others) since they were new.

 

[Formidilosus]

Title is pretty self explanatory. Is there a FFP mil/mil scope 16 oz or less that passes the drop test? If not I will stick with SWAFA 3-9 but wanted to double check if there are any other options to look at. If its not 16oz or better the juice is not worth the squeeze to try. Would be ok with either variable or fixed if it was close to fixed 6.

The only one lighter than 20oz is the NF NX8 1-8x.

 

[Wrench]

No one told you that you were full of shit. Peoole did state that it’s extremely odd and u likely- and that’s factual. Also, if I remember correctly it was me that stated that if it lost zero as you say it did- then it would be rattling; that’s when you checked and made the video. People asked for information, yet you are posting in bunches of threads this same “I was told I was full of shit” statement. Not sure what the deal is with you trying to turn it into something it wasn’t.

Can you show in this thread where people said you were “full of shit”- because it seems like exactly the opposite, and you stated that you break bunches of scopes in the same use-

W

Thread 'Aaaaaaaaand I killed another scope'

Dec 24, 2024

I built a 6XC this year with all the right stuff and I managed to get the 6mm TAP's to shoot really well for about 300 rounds.

I am hunting on a depredation elk hunt and had a 100yd shot broadside, standing still, on the bipod.....everything perfect.....and I 100% did not kill an elk.

I heard the shot land, although we're shooting elk #160 of 200 to walk by so the ground is mud and could have been the impact....dunno.

At the time I assumed this elk would be laying dead in about 50 yards.....but no deal. I tracked the elk for over a mile and given the number in the herd there was not...

• Wrench
• Replies: 128
• Forum: Optics

You also are failing to state what is causing it, that you apparently refuse to address it, and that probably no other scopes save a NF milspec would constantly survive it either.

The other side is while the NX8 overall is probably better in durability and reliability than anyone else’s scopes, they are the NF with the most issues- that’s been stated by me (and others) since they were new.

Listen Chuck, I didn't say you said it or Rokslide said it, I said people said it.... so don't feel so special.

 

[Speaks]

The only one lighter than 20iz is the NF NX8 1-8x.

Great thank you. Il stick with swfa 3-9 in that case. Appreciate your help.

 

[z987k]

Are these FFP? I always assumed SFP.

No. They're SFP.