LongWayAround
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I don't see the logic in looking for something with more recoil while admitting that you prefer less recoil and mostly plan on deer hunting.
I have ditched all of my long action rifles. I switched to short actions. My 284 Winchester shoots lights out and can run up there with the 280AI. Peterson and Lapua brass. I load it a tad longer than a short action with max coal at 3.1”. Light recoil and just a pleasure to shoot. Most accurate rifle I have ever owned.
I recently built a 6.8 Western. I am in the process of loading 165 LRAB and 175 Game-changers. I load it to max COAL of 2.95”. The 6.8 Western is my heavy hitter now. Downside is only Winchester brass is available. Bullet selection gets better as time goes on. I am chomping on the bit to get out there and hunt with it. My go to rifle was a 270 Win for decades. The 6.8 Western fits my personality.
I see where production rifle makers are starting to get with the program and offering rifles with faster twist rates in 270 WSM, 270 Win and .243 win. I shot the Hornady custom magnums with Interbonds in 270 win. Then they dropped the ammo line and went with superformance.I wouldn't trade my 270wsm rifles for either...but if Hornady already had the factory Superformance SST rounds out for the 270 before I bought the 270wsm, I'd probably never bought a 270wsm either.
300wsm is a different story. I still buy every nice one I see at a bargain price.
You're very right. 7 STW had better ballistics thirty years ago then a lot of these new fandangled cartridges. I never understood why it didn't have more of a following.I always get s kick out of the prognosticators saying something dead or not. The 6.5 creedmoor did not catch on for like 8 years and the whole time the internet experts claimed it was a fad. Now yet another 7mm mag comes along and people are saying it is next coming and 6.8 is dead. How many rounds have been the 7mag of the day? STW, RUM, shortmags, AI, LRM, Nosler et all. Most have had good iniital factory support. Where are they now? Can still get new factory ammo and rifles chambered in 270 wsm. Just sayin….
Lou
Interesting. I’ve never heard anyone say 6mm bullet selection was lacking.The 6.8 Western is just getting started. New 277 bullets are being added as time goes on. Six factory loads for the 6.8 Western, 4 win 2 browning. Six factor loads for the 7 PRC, 2 federal and 4 Hornady. Premium brass on the way this year….
I am building a 6 Creed but I was surprised to learn that the bullet selection isn’t what I had hoped for. But if I can get the 103 ELD-X to sing I’ll be a happy camper.
Yeah - anytime the 165 ablr load, 175 tgk load, or 170 btip load shows up on midway they sell out immediately. Not as many folks interested in the 162 mono load though it is a fine load with good bc for a mono especially out of short action. The 165 ablr are in stock cabelas if anybody looking for themI have little or no interest in either the 6.8 western or the 7 prc, I just glanced at Midway's ammo selection. Both cartridges have six results.
The 6.8 has one 'in stock," the other five are either "out of stock/no backorder" or "coming soon."
The 7 prc has five "in stock" and one "coming soon.'
The 6.8 power point listed as "coming soon" is "no longer available" on Brownells.
It’s the chicken or the eqg — which comes first. If rifle sales keep going it will fuel the production of more ammo. If more people scream for brass, it will become available. If more shooters want bullets, those bullets will be available. If you look at the 6 factory ammo loads for the 6.8 and the six factory loads for the 7 PRC, you will find most of the 6.8 Western is out of stock. The 7 PRC most of the factory ammo is in stock. What that tells me is that the demand is higher for 6.8 ammo but not so much for the 7 PRC.Interesting. I’ve never heard anyone say 6mm bullet selection was lacking.
I still think it’s going to take a few manufactures other than Olin, to make 6.8 factory ammo before it takes off.
I think you are reading that wrong. It shows that they are doing limited runs of 6.8 Western because it isn't nearly as popular as they hoped it would be. FAR better bullet selection in .284 than .277 and it will always be that way. I bet there are 25 7PRC rifles sold to every single 6.8 Western. It'll be glaringly obvious further down the road.It’s the chicken or the eqg — which comes first. If rifle sales keep going it will fuel the production of more ammo. If more people scream for brass, it will become available. If more shooters want bullets, those bullets will be available. If you look at the 6 factory ammo loads for the 6.8 and the six factory loads for the 7 PRC, you will find most of the 6.8 Western is out of stock. The 7 PRC most of the factory ammo is in stock. What that tells me is that the demand is higher for 6.8 ammo but not so much for the 7 PRC.
I'd wager to say the Hornaday mother ship is producing greater quantities of ammo. They have it figured out, develope a product and support it. Also, I'd wager a great deal of prc shooters are handloaders.It’s the chicken or the eqg — which comes first. If rifle sales keep going it will fuel the production of more ammo. If more people scream for brass, it will become available. If more shooters want bullets, those bullets will be available. If you look at the 6 factory ammo loads for the 6.8 and the six factory loads for the 7 PRC, you will find most of the 6.8 Western is out of stock. The 7 PRC most of the factory ammo is in stock. What that tells me is that the demand is higher for 6.8 ammo but not so much for the 7 PRC.