is it my scope or loads? 98% good, 2% fail @ 100 yards

CamaroMan

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still trying to track wierd results. on about my 3rd reload on these shells, 7mm mag.

im at 58 grains of N160 powder on hornady 150 grain - ive shot about 100 rounds thru both me and the wifes tikka t3 rifles with the vortex scopes that are magnum rated- i loctited and torqued all screws (im an engine builder by trade) so was quite detailed in that.

when we shoot we start at 50 - nail a tight enough group and move out to 100 then finally 200.

Multiple trips - last time went GREAT, till the last two bullets, missed a parking space sign at 50 yards TWICE!

Losing my mind here- is the scope jumping?

Something im missing during reloading?

One thing ive noticed is the recoil on my loads are less than the factory loads ive shot - wondering if thats neck crimp tension or perhaps something else.

Hunting season is coming up and my paranoia is kicking in. I missed a PERFECT side shot at 100 yards by 4+ feet!!! im super worried and not sure where to start.

This year im trying barnes and will hit the desert mabe once before going hunting -

Any ideas?
 
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CamaroMan

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fwiw i calibrate my scale and have my LEE setup the same for all these loads.. 58 grains is on the entry level for this powder far as ive seen.
 
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Are you capable of shooting that many 7mag rounds at a time?
What about action screws? Barrel in the dovetail like it should be?

Dunno what a magnum rated scope is. I know what a vortex is though. Wouldnt put a hell of alot of faith in that
 

KenLee

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still trying to track wierd results. on about my 3rd reload on these shells, 7mm mag.

im at 58 grains of N160 powder on hornady 150 grain - ive shot about 100 rounds thru both me and the wifes tikka t3 rifles with the vortex scopes that are magnum rated- i loctited and torqued all screws (im an engine builder by trade) so was quite detailed in that.

when we shoot we start at 50 - nail a tight enough group and move out to 100 then finally 200.



Multiple trips - last time went GREAT, till the last two bullets, missed a parking space sign at 50 yards TWICE!


Losing my mind here- is the scope jumping?

Something im missing during reloading?

One thing ive noticed is the recoil on my loads are less than the factory loads ive shot - wondering if thats neck crimp tension or perhaps something else.

Hunting season is coming up and my paranoia is kicking in. I missed a PERFECT side shot at 100 yards by 4+ feet!!! im super worried and not sure where to start.

This year im trying barnes and will hit the desert mabe once before going hunting -

Try another known good scope to see how it holds zero. I'd bet the Vortex broke. Been there too many times.
 
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Action screws torqued to spec
Scope base screws/rings screws all torqued to spec

If those are good and your loads are consistent, then I would try another scope

Are you using a bipod and rear bag?
 
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Was given a m77 to fix that was shooting groups about 8".
The action screws were quite loose and it was actually shooting 3 different groups. You could actually call where the next one was goona land LOL. Shot pretty good after tightening things up.

I'm still leaning towards a bad flinch from shooting a 7mag T3 off a bench that many times
 

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still trying to track wierd results. on about my 3rd reload on these shells, 7mm mag.

im at 58 grains of N160 powder on hornady 150 grain - ive shot about 100 rounds thru both me and the wifes tikka t3 rifles with the vortex scopes that are magnum rated- i loctited and torqued all screws (im an engine builder by trade) so was quite detailed in that.

when we shoot we start at 50 - nail a tight enough group and move out to 100 then finally 200.

Multiple trips - last time went GREAT, till the last two bullets, missed a parking space sign at 50 yards TWICE!

Losing my mind here- is the scope jumping?

Something im missing during reloading?

One thing ive noticed is the recoil on my loads are less than the factory loads ive shot - wondering if thats neck crimp tension or perhaps something else.

Hunting season is coming up and my paranoia is kicking in. I missed a PERFECT side shot at 100 yards by 4+ feet!!! im super worried and not sure where to start.

This year im trying barnes and will hit the desert mabe once before going hunting -

Any ideas?
Ummm are you really shooting at a parking lot sign?
 

intunegp

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You posted about this same issue in April and you haven't figured it out yet? AND you only plan to shoot one more time before going hunting?
 

The Guide

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You posted about this same issue in April and you haven't figured it out yet? AND you only plan to shoot one more time before going hunting?
I think you are on to something... Either they don't want to listen or they post on a hunch of sites and don't pay attention to what has been suggested.

Jay
 

HornPorn

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What he posted does not even make sense:

"when we shoot we start at 50 - nail a tight enough group and move out to 100 then finally 200.

Multiple trips - last time went GREAT, till the last two bullets, missed a parking space sign at 50 yards TWICE!"

His last two shots would have been at 200 yards, not at 50
 
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