Is it all Leopolds

[ID_Matt]

It still seems like many people believe their scope didn't fail because they successfully killed an animal. If you killed an animal even though your scope slightly lost zero it still failed.

Like this? Assuming vitals are 18-20", be a roughly 8 MOA target (paper plate zero)

I’m knocking on wood. I’ve yet to have one not hold zero. I’ve had a few vortex break on me. But many of my leupolds are not the newer HD lines (vx6 is of that lineage).

We hunt out of a boat. This moose season we put 400ish miles on our rifle that was bouncing around the whole time in a river skiff. 250yd shot on a nice bull. He went down. She harvested her first. Scope
Didn’t fail.

However, I don’t purchase as confidently as I did. I do read and I do see the reviews.

But I also don’t use eld-m bullets.

 

[bpitcher]

I've owned a bunch of Leupolds over the years and killed many animals with them.

Like many here, I've read enough to become uneasy with their durability. Sure enough, my VX5 3-15 had the seals fail after a trip to the panhandle. To their credit, Leupold fixed it and and returned it within four weeks (shipping there was on my dime). I sold it immediately after.

Funny enough, on the same trip my son's rifle took a tumble out of the side by side and landed right on the elevation turret of the NF 3-10 SHV. Immediately confirmed that zero was maintained.

I want to root for Leupold - American made, great glass and weight. However, with so many proven optics in the same price range, its just not worth the gamble in my opinion. YMMV.

 

[Archer86]

Intellectual gymnastics are amusing, and I can't help being bored waiting for the mail man (who is now running late) to deliver a muffler. I lost my self control and came back to this dumpster fire for some warmth and toxic fumes. But, laughing reactions count towards your reaction score, so really I'm helping you out.

I think @Archer86 takes the toxicity prize at the moment.

i try

 

[realunlucky]

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[Archer86]

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I guess it would probably hurt some feelings removed it for you. Back to bashing products that's approved by rokslide.....

 

[2531usmc]

Reading the Rokslide Leupold forums is like taking a fork, sticking it in your eye and twisting it……

 

[Reburn]

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I got a point for less in the past.
Just saying.

 

[IDVortex]

I got a point for less in the past.
Just saying.

For $295 I can bring you up a point.

 

[Marbles]

Reading the Rokslide Leupold forums is like taking a fork, sticking it in your eye and twisting it……

Yet, we keep coming back. Guess I'm a bit masochistic, because you're not wrong.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Did somebody say something?

 

[Marbles]

Did somebody say something?

Made me smile, thank you.

 

[Castle Rock]

Castle Rock.....Nightforce scopes are made in America, in Orofino, Idaho. The glass is imported from Japan. Most scope and bino manufacturers do not make their own glass. Top tier glass is a highly specialized process. So no, they are not made or assembled in Japan/Asia. SWFA and Vortex etc are. That was my point.

Jake, I have the same NF NSX 2-10x42 scope. The other is a NSX 5.5-22x50. Both are a bit heavy though for my lightweight rigs but it's all about compromising.

Really, where do you think your NF are made

 

[Castle Rock]

So did we work out where your NSXs came from?

 

[Schmo]

All current NF scopes besides the ATACR line are made in Japan. Several years ago, some NXS models were made in America. I think @pacoalcracker NXS scopes are probably made in Japan.

 

[wapitibob]

We used to make scope parts for NF, every part you can see on a BEAST we made except the lenses. The NXS was/maybe still is made on the same Japanese factory line as the Vortex PST. The internals are almost identical. In fact, "somebody" decided to put some NF erector springs in the V1 PST's till they got discovered.
The NXS is assembled in the Japanese plant, shipped to Orofino, dis assembled, bonded back together, and tested. I don't believe the NXS was ever made in the USA; certainly not in Orofino, they didn't have the tooling to make a scope. Last I heard NF was building a 30,000 facility, no idea if it's done or what they're making in it.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Made me smile, thank you.

Good one, we have more in common with sense of humor than we think lol.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Reading the "SWFA website upgraded thread". Parallax adjustment is being talked about. I found a parallax calculator on the web. With a 100 yard parallax free adjustment with a 40mm objective there shows to be 3.15" error at 500 yds. With 50MM objective, just a hair less than 4" error at said distance.

I don't know much about parallax. Is that an absolute or is that the worst case for parallax depending on the shooters alignment?

 

[Marbles]

Reading the "SWFA website upgraded thread". Parallax adjustment is being talked about. I found a parallax calculator on the web. With a 100 yard parallax free adjustment with a 40mm objective there shows to be 3.15" error at 500 yds. With 50MM objective, just a hair less than 4" error at said distance.

I don't know much about parallax. Is that an absolute or is that the worst case for parallax depending on the shooters alignment?

Depends on the calculator. The one I have seen said it was worsts case that someone might shoot with, but absolute worst case (think scope shadow almost to the reticle center would be about double).

It changes based on where the fixed parallax is set to. 250-300 yards appears to be the sweet spot.

 

[35WhelenAI]

That got me thinking of other effects of putting an accurate shot on game in addition to shift, for a scope that is non adjustable. I would think the max error would be the output of a calculator, JAT.

Longer range shooters, would a fixed parallax scope do as well for you at 500+ yds vs an adjustable parallax scope, if eye alignment was square, or whatever the term is?

 

[z987k]

Reading the "SWFA website upgraded thread". Parallax adjustment is being talked about. I found a parallax calculator on the web. With a 100 yard parallax free adjustment with a 40mm objective there shows to be 3.15" error at 500 yds. With 50MM objective, just a hair less than 4" error at said distance.

I don't know much about parallax. Is that an absolute or is that the worst case for parallax depending on the shooters alignment?

That's the maximum error. If your head is in the right place it's closer to 0.