Is a 6.5 PRC enough? Do I need a 7mm?

[HandgunHTR]

Lol. I always get a kick out you guys who think they shoot a lot more than everybody else. I own my own ranch and except for this year where got into fishing and not hunted much offseason, hunt pigs pretty much every weekend as there is not much else to do in the evenings. I test a lot of different combos including sst and eldx. And no I dont shoot eldms because I don’t trust them at the impact velocity of rounds I hunt with though would use them with slower rounds. The sst and eldx do what they are designed to do and I expect the eldm will as well which is why I don’t use them. Pigs are tough to find once they get in the thick stuff. The funny thing is guys who have little experience tend to think they know something special based on a few isolated examples but often make the most noise.

Lou

I shoot a crap-load of pigs myself. A lot fewer of them make it into the "thick stuff" when shot with TMKs and ELDMs than the ones shot with "hunting bullets".
Add to that the significant number of whitetails that I kill and see killed every year and the statistics become pretty convincing.
But, don't take my word for it. I would recommend you do a little digging for a guy named Fordy. He posts over on other forums and has done a bit of research on how different bullets perform on game. He has broken it down pretty well. His findings may surprise you.

And as for the continued assertion that Hornady must know what they are talking about, we must believe them when they talk about bullets, but it is all just "hype and marketing" when it comes to cartridges like the Creedmoors and ARCs, right?

 

[Lou270]

I shoot a crap-load of pigs myself. A lot fewer of them make it into the "thick stuff" when shot with TMKs and ELDMs than the ones shot with "hunting bullets".
Add to that the significant number of whitetails that I kill and see killed every year and the statistics become pretty convincing.
But, don't take my word for it. I would recommend you do a little digging for a guy named Fordy. He posts over on other forums and has done a bit of research on how different bullets perform on game. He has broken it down pretty well. His findings may surprise you.

And as for the continued assertion that Hornady must know what they are talking about, we must believe them when they talk about bullets, but it is all just "hype and marketing" when it comes to cartridges like the Creedmoors and ARCs, right?

I know fordy from all the Hammer bullets hooplah when they came out. I don’t know if he is still tied with them or not but he is a good guy. As for pigs dieing faster with match type bullets, I don’t know about eldm but I have shot a bunch with Bergers and they really come apart and do a lot of damage. I use a lot of my left over hunting ammo that I load for other hunting on pigs and went through a Berger phase. When they drop pigs it is great. When the pigs run it is not as there is zero blood trail. If they drop pigs faster on average than other bullets it is not enough for me to notice, but the lack of blood trail when they don’t is. So I reserve them for purely open country where can see game fall if runs

I think Hornady is great. Always been a fan and enjoy their podcasts. As for cartridges like them all, old and new. My only complaint with Hornady is they are a bit butt hurt over 6.8W and won’t offer a heavier eldx in 27 cal. Despite people complaining about Hornady “marketing” I think they are pretty straight up on their recommendation. The “dirty” marketers are the builders who say use eldm or other match bullets on their hunting rifles because they are easy to hit accuracy guarantees

Lou

 

[Packmansion]

It's never too late to build a 6.5 creedmoor. One day you'll come around.

 

[Dan Carey]

Or the newer 6.5 PRC, which I have.

 

[Packmansion]

Or the newer 6.5 PRC, which I have.

Like I said it's never too late...

 

[TradLife406]

I drew a hard to get bull permit in Montana. I've been shooting a 6.5 PRC for a few years.
I asked [mention]Ryan Avery [/mention] about an elk gun since all my few elk have been with struggle sticks or my truck.
It was a mistake... ha! He sold me a 6 UM Figure if it'll kill a giraffe it'll smoke an elk no problem. 115 grain DTac going 3300 should slap.

Then listing to the older podcast with Form on terminal ballistics he makes a strong case for smaller rounds going fast over big magnums.

 

[Dan Carey]

They have tried or over a hundred years to better the 30-06. I think they succeeded with the 300 WM. The rest are, wanna be's, tried to be's, and ain't gonna be.

 

[ChromeHound]

They have tried or over a hundred years to better the 30-06. I think they succeeded with the 300 WM. The rest are, wanna be's, tried to be's, and ain't gonna be.

The 30-06 had the advantage of an historically unprecedented amount of government R&D which created the "800 pound gorilla". Empirically, there are superior cartridges (the 300 WM included). The 60-80 year head start for the 30-06 and the overabundance of options on the market today have prevented a proper recent "challenger" to the 30-06. The 30-06 is no slouch and there are plenty of people that have inherited them that don't have a reason to spend the $ to upgrade from "good enough for government work".