Influencer - Bad Shots

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Is this the make a wish kid?

 

[Bigbuckbandit]

Watched a Hush video where they got two draw elk tags. The stalky round guy with the beard proceeds to shoot his elk in the ass and turns to the camera and says it was a good shot. Poor elk just sat injured all night until they came in the next day to finish it. Influencers are such scumbags.

 

[NMJM]

Agreed, I didn't even click on the videos, I got the gist and I'm confident I don't care to watch it from the description by the OP.

This 100%

 

[LONE HUNTER]

I'm average at best at hunting and shooting. I've made my share of shots that left a lot to be desired. That said, it blows my mind how bad influencers in general tend to be at shooting. Crap happens, but the percentage of piss poor shots from influencers really is sad. The ol texas heart shot and the following "smoked him" line are ridiculous.

 

[Rich M]

The shot on the WT wasn't bad - not in the ass as OP stated, in gut, and up into the chest cavity...

 

[LostWapiti]

It’s clear to me that the buck was on the move. It did not look like he was gonna stay still for long. There was nothing unethical about the first shot. He obviously made a perfect shot and dropped it. Angle was fine. I don’t think there was any option of waiting for a better angle. That angle was plenty good.

The whitetail shot was iffy, but most tipped bullets handle steep quartering pretty well.

Hate the guy but got to agree here. First shot is perfectly find broadside shot. Second shot the shooter was definitely to the left of the camera and did seem like he was some distance away so we really don’t know exactly what the shot angle was.

Hard quartering away shots can be perfectly acceptable as long as you know what you are doing and have the skills to back it up. Of course we would all always prefer a perfectly broadside shot. In the case of the second deer it did seem like he could have waited for a better shot but once again we don’t even know what the shot angle was for the shooter.

 

[PredatoryProwler]

If I remember correctly.
1. Shot a turkey in the wrong unit in Utah.
2. Convicted of trespassing once in Utah.
3. Convicted of trespassing once in Idaho.

But why do people support them still? Well according to a thread about a sponsorship...and then a podcast
1. Who cares?
2. You are just participating in "cancel culture" if you do boycott them and/or their sponsors. Those are only just the ones they have found l

Those are just the ones we have found out about…

 

[OXN939]

Just stop giving these people clicks... Even if you don't subscribe, he still got a view from these being watched.

This is true, but there is something to be said for bringing negative attention to people like this. Take a second and write his sponsors an email letting them know how you feel about the fact that they support a dude who has been convincted for poaching three times over. Give them a call too.



I honestly do believe the next decade will decide the fate of hunting for our kids. If we don't hold people like this dude accountable as a community, we are toast.

 

[Rich M]

This is true, but there is something to be said for bringing negative attention to people like this. Take a second and write his sponsors an email letting them know how you feel about the fact that they support a dude who has been convincted for poaching three times over. Give them a call too.

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I honestly do believe the next decade will decide the fate of hunting for our kids. If we don't hold people like this dude accountable as a community, we are toast.

Until you and the other guys stop clicking, he will continue to make money and be on the TV/Youtube screen.

 

[OXN939]

Until you and the other guys stop clicking, he will continue to make money and be on the TV/Youtube screen.

Do you have any evidence that I've ever clicked on anything associated with an influencer? I attached a screenshot of a post one of his sponsors made so guys could write said sponsor with their opinions. Using that information to give them negative press coverage is the best way to destroy these peoples' ability to market themselves.

Side note, a fun game is to go down the comments on posts like that. If you see an outfitter or other company supporting them, send that profile a message letting them know you won't buy from brands that associate with poachers. Really gets them in their feels.

 

[Rich M]

Do you have any evidence that I've ever clicked on anything associated with an influencer? I attached a screenshot of a post one of his sponsors made so guys could write said sponsor with their opinions. Using that information to give them negative press coverage is the best way to destroy these peoples' ability to market themselves.

Side note, a fun game is to go down the comments on posts like that. If you see an outfitter or other company supporting them, send that profile a message letting them know you won't buy from brands that associate with poachers. Really gets them in their feels.

Was generalizing... can see how it sounded diff.

I did contact Outdoor Life and a couple other places including NRA when that von dingbat stole the lady's deer last year. Still pisses me off.

 

[OXN939]

I did contact Outdoor Life and a couple other places including NRA when that von dingbat stole the lady's deer last year. Still pisses me off.

We have way more pull than we realize I think. End of the day, these people are just marketing tools, and if 1/10th of the people who are turned off by influencer antics actually wrote these companies with their opinions, the problem would be solved.

 

[AZ_Hunter]

Leave comments on how he is a poaching douche. **** that guy.

 

[Rich M]

We have way more pull than we realize I think. End of the day, these people are just marketing tools, and if 1/10th of the people who are turned off by influencer antics actually wrote these companies with their opinions, the problem would be solved.

Likely.

It seems like work tho. Most folks who watch the youtube stuff don't seem to care about generalized poaching and LR gut shots or whatever.

 

[Reddawg]

I’m generally against social media. Just leads to chasing limelight, bad decisions, and poor mental health when all you see are people’s “highlight reels”.

 

[bergie]

This is true, but there is something to be said for bringing negative attention to people like this. Take a second and write his sponsors an email letting them know how you feel about the fact that they support a dude who has been convincted for poaching three times over. Give them a call too.


I honestly do believe the next decade will decide the fate of hunting for our kids. If we don't hold people like this dude accountable as a community, we are toast.

I have written emails that go unanswered to sponsors of theirs. If that sponsor also runs ads on this forum you'll get the thread locked for bringing it up.

People who want him held accountable are unfortunately in the minority.

Money is the most important factor.

 

[7RemMag]

When I saw this thread, I only assumed that it was this particular “influencer” that was being brought up, and I was not wrong. I had heard about this video more recently. I was pleasantly surprised, however, to see that the overwhelming majority of replies to this post were certainly not fans of him. I was unaware of any poaching accusations. I had not watched his content with any regularity to begin with, but several months ago happened to see a video of his on YouTube titled “.22 Creedmore for bear”…. Without even watching, I established that he was not an individual I was interested in supporting, and adamantly refused to watch anything he produced.

There are a handful of hunting celebrities and influencers out there who I personally feel are respectable. Maybe even admirable. I’ve long been a fan of Rinella and the meateater crew, for example. That said, the overwhelming majority of them are nowhere near what I feel is a good representation of our sport(s).

 

[KenLee]

At Least thrice trespassing. Two or more times on the same property in UT, then recently the ID deal. It'd be one thing if a guy seemed decent and was on the wrong side of the law, but theres a ton of content and reactions to his misgivings proving that he's a Dbag.

Nightforce loves him.

 

[Stocky]

I think both these shots were stupid.

My Opinion:

• He never gave either buck time to give him a full broadside shot.
• The shot from the 22 CM was basically in the ass. A good hunter would have taken their time.

Controversial take acknowledging MF is a douche but watching both of these my takeaways are that
the 6.5 shot wasn't unreasonable its a bit hard to tell but looks like it spined the deer back a fair ways not a great shot if so.

The 22 shot was a pretty bad angle but still they had some side exposure to the chest cavity and in terms of where you would want to hit at the angle the shot was well placed. They probably should have waited but they seemed close and probably had 2-3 inch wide kill zone its definitely not the worse thing I've seen.

 

[BigAntlerGetter]

My brother and I sat down and watched one of his highlight reals, I have to say there was a ton of long range shots on there they bragged about but watching the videos, you can see that if they animal didn’t jump the shot or move it would have been a really bad shot or miss completely. IMO if you shoot at an animal and don’t hit where you were aiming it might be a hit but it’s classified as a miss. We watched 1 bear shot 6 times and put a mark on the tv, if the bear didn’t move suddenly to push at another bear they would have completely missed. But he bragged about his 659 yard perfect shot or whatever it was.

I’ve written several of their sponsors with disgust of supporting him, but truth be told he has a cult following and it sells products. That’s business sometimes


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