If you could build any short action coyote gun…

brockel

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What do you recommend?
If out of a fast 22 cal 52 grain hornady hp or if your gun doesn’t like boattail bullets the 53 grain hornady hp. Lost count of how many coyotes I’ve killed with these bullets with 220 swift, 220 swift ackley, 22-250, 22-250 ackley, 22 creed over the years.

Tried 53 grain vmax at 3600fps out of a 22-250 later into the winter and it was pretty fur friendly on coyotes but I only killed 20 with it so I’m not completely sold yet but so far it looks good.

In the 223 the 53 grain vmax has been the king for coyotes for me. This is over hundreds of coyotes with these bullets. Not just a handful.
 

KenLee

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Coyote 300 yards and under?
I'd take the $1500 and pull one of the sh**box 22-250 model 788 out. Those ugly little rascals have broke alot of hearts over the years. I don't like Remington bolt actions, but if a rifle shoots like my 788s and 700 bdl varmint special 22-250, you hang onto them. I traded into all of those for about nothing years ago.
 

wyosam

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What do you recommend?

For fur friendly ideally light for caliber and rapid expanding. Other option if fmj no expansion and straight through. Best bet is something light, fast and rapid expanding to catch it in something as small as a coyote to avoid exit.


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scottprice

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Sounds like I need a 22creed with light bullets… what is the shortest Barrel I could get away with without reducing the 22 creed potential down to the ballistics of a lesser cartridge?
 
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Here is one of my custom AR-15s running a 308 size bolt and barrel extension.. 25x47 based on Lapua 6.5x47 brass.
Krieger .257 24" barrel, Nosler 85gr BT Varmint bullet, IMR 8208, CCI450, 3382fps, 3/8" group at 100yds...
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Armasight Zeus Pro 100mm thermal, 3.5x base mag, 640 processor, 17 micron.
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Sounds like I need a 22creed with light bullets… what is the shortest Barrel I could get away with without reducing the 22 creed potential down to the ballistics of a lesser cartridge?
My integrally suppressed .22 Creed barrel from SWS Rifles has 14 inches of rifling with the final 6 inches as baffles. With 80-gr. factory ammo, its right at 3,000 fps.
 

ALF

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Sounds like I need a 22creed with light bullets… what is the shortest Barrel I could get away with without reducing the 22 creed potential down to the ballistics of a lesser cartridge?

My 18" 22x47, with a hair less capacity then the Crapmore, shoots 52 Bergers at 3800.

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Sounds like I need a 22creed with light bullets… what is the shortest Barrel I could get away with without reducing the 22 creed potential down to the ballistics of a lesser cartridge?
For thermal hunting I don’t mind a longer barrel -24” to maximize velocity. Hornady reloading data says max on a 1:8 24” barrel 3850fps. Below are some rough figures based on that.

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Worst case assume you lose 50fps per inch so 20” barrel puts you at 3500fps still. Example of drops below.

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Based on these estimate you give up 2” of drop at 300 (your intended max range) chopping it down to 20”. You can still easily hold for 5-6” of drop for 300 yard shots on your 4” target (coyote vitals), so not a huge change. Personally I want the fps 3500+ for thermal hunting, so based on these estimate 20” would be the shortest I would build one.
 
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