Idaho proposed special season open sight centerfire

[43.6N]

The thought of limiting units to draw, capped, etc is unpalatable to allot of Idaho.

You can get away from people on the otc hunts and kill good bucks, but it’s not nearly as enjoyable as medium quality draw unit in other states. Being stuck hunting within a couple hours of Boise doesn’t help although the worst crowing I’ve ever been a part of was 5 hours away on opening weekend in an otc unit.

It becomes do you want quantity of hunts or quality of hunts.

(Yes it was a typo)

Thanks for clarifying for me. I’m an Idaho public school grad, so my reading comprehension is measurably low.

And I’m tracking 100% with your point. IDFG seems content to focus on the quantity of tags without meaningful improvement in their quality.

However them curtailing the out of state tag options this year is a surprising move.

 

[WeiserBucks]

However them curtailing the out of state tag options this year is a surprising move.

What was actually curtailed? Numbers or process?

 

[43.6N]

What was actually curtailed? Numbers or process?

Capped non resident tags is what I was referencing.

No change to overall tag numbers from what I’ve seen. But higher percentage of resident vs non res opportunities.

Have you seen something else?

 

[WeiserBucks]

Capped non resident tags is what I was referencing.

No change to overall tag numbers from what I’ve seen. But higher percentage of resident vs non res opportunities.

Have you seen something else?

Nope. What you described has been going on for decades with minor tweaks in recent years.

 

[Flyjunky]

In my opinion these are great ideas, and have been shown to work in other places. In Oregon, in their premier trophy mule deer unit, the only hunt besides a very limited rifle hunt is a Traditional Archery only hunt.

This hunt allows more people to expierince the unit, see great bucks, but have a very low harvest on those deer. What's not to like?

If you want to burn 20 points, apply for the rifle hunt. If you want to expierience the hunt every year as a resident, pick up a traditional bow and accept that you will have low success, while enjoying the opportunity to chase desert mule deer.

What “premier” unit in Oregon are you referring to? I’m not aware of any such unit.

 

[43.6N]

Nope. What you described has been going on for decades with minor tweaks in recent years.

Ah, I see. Thank you.
My short term observer bias is showing.

I saw the most recent move as a response to curtail the out of state social media hunting bubble. But again, that’s probably me seeing and interpreting it through my own lens and bias.

 

[Flyjunky]

For sure there are a lot bigger challenges facing the deer herds than hunters but why continue to overpressure already decimated herds for the sake of opportunity and tag revenue. Many deer hunters I’ve talked to would support regulations that would give the deer a break for awhile- even if it means not getting to kill a buck every single year. Sure they could all die in the next big winterkill event but we gotta do something here. Look at the stats on deer herd numbers across the west- they’re collapsing.

Notice also that those who want more primitive weapons also want those seasons during the most vulnerable time of year for deer?

 

[nevadabugle]

Notice also that those who want more primitive weapons also want those seasons during the most vulnerable time of year for deer?

Is August/September the most vulnerable time? Thats when the few primitive archery hunts that I know of are. I would think the late rifle hunts fall in that window? What am I missing?

 

[WeiserBucks]

Is August/September the most vulnerable time? Thats when the few primitive archery hunts that I know of are. I would think the late rifle hunts fall in that window? What am I missing?

Look at our current primitive weapon seasons.

 

[nevadabugle]

What “premier” unit in Oregon are you referring to? I’m not aware of any such unit.

Would you not agree that the Trouts are one of Oregons premier mule deer unit? I know guys that draw that with lots of saved up points for rifle?

 

[nevadabugle]

Look at our current primitive weapon seasons.

Which state?

 

[WeiserBucks]

Which state?

The state being discussed in this thread.

 

[Flyjunky]

Would you not agree that the Trouts are one of Oregons premier mule deer unit? I know guys that draw that with lots of saved up points for rifle?

No deer unit in Oregon is premier, none are worth the points required.

 

[nevadabugle]

The state being discussed in this thread.

Isn't this proposal the first of the Resrticted rifle hunts in Idaho? I know there are no restricted weapons archery hunts in Idaho?
Maybe there is some flintlock hunt that I am not aware of and if so I apologize.

 

[nevadabugle]

No deer unit in Oregon is premier, none are worth the points required.

Ok. I would disagree, but let's unpack your assumption a bit.

If the current model does not work to produce trophy bucks, maybe we should attempt a different model? Doing the same thing and expecting different results hardly seems like a smart decision.

 

[WeiserBucks]

Isn't this proposal the first of the Resrticted rifle hunts in Idaho? I know there are no restricted weapons archery hunts in Idaho?
Maybe there is some flintlock hunt that I am not aware of and if so I apologize.

Idaho. Plenty of restrictions if someone wants to be restricted, plenty of unrestricted hunts if someone doesn't want to be restricted.

 

[WRO]

Thanks for clarifying for me. I’m an Idaho public school grad, so my reading comprehension is measurably low.

And I’m tracking 100% with your point. IDFG seems content to focus on the quantity of tags without meaningful improvement in their quality.

However them curtailing the out of state tag options this year is a surprising move.

The numbers didn’t change for nrs, it’s a great money grab with the upfront license fees.

Idfg could help if they’d standardize seasons, the units that last a week longer get hammered. Doe tags should be all draw and limited to youth and handicapped. From guys who hunt 45 allot as an example, since the doe tags were ended, the number’s have popped back.

 

[nevadabugle]

Idaho. Plenty of restrictions if someone wants to be restricted, plenty of unrestricted hunts if someone doesn't want to be restricted.

Not sure you're making alot of sense here.

Are there currently, Traditional Archery Only, Open Sighted or straightwalled Rifle hunts, or Sidelock muzzleloader hunts in Idaho?

 

[Wrench]

I'd be more in favor of a traditional muzzleloader or archery season.

 

[Sully_44]

Utahs open sight changes has pushed a couple of my older family members off the mountain and out of their life long units. Their eyesight isn’t what it used to be and they weren’t able to qualify for any help/exemption.

The guys pushing for it here in Idaho are the same guys who pushed for it in Utah. They’ve all had their fun using new “technology” now they want to limit it for everyone.

Wrong, I’m on the tech committee in Utah, I’m in my 20s and liked the idea of trying something to offset how efficient we are getting with all the new tech.

Something has to give and maybe limiting technology will help with that.