Idaho Bonus point system

[WRO]

What will your sons and daughters do when they start hunting a state that has max points over 40? Over 60? Not good for current hunters. Horrid for new hunters arriving to a long established system.

Hunt tags you can actually draw.

Chase OIL’s on the random.

Random or not, some tags will always have astronomical odds.

 

[WRO]

A point system won’t make your buddy any more likely to draw an antelope tag. The issue isn’t points it’s the reality that there are very few tags and lots of applicants. There isn’t a rifle tag in the state that I’m aware of with better than 4% odds of drawing. If your buddy wants an antelope tag he should push IDFG to move antelope into the trophy species draws, I bet they would be near 50% odds every year or better if you had to choose between antelope or deer and elk


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I’ve drawn a couple antelope tags on points in other states with similar applicant to tag allocations ratios.

 

[bergie]

Good to see that the vast majority understand that point systems are only of any value to the people who get in at the beginning. Keep it random and give our kids and grandkids the same opportunity to hunt as we had. Its very simple if you look our for future generations and not just yourself to see that point systems are the wrong way to go.

 

[deadwolf]

Hunt tags you can actually draw.

Chase OIL’s on the random.

Random or not, some tags will always have astronomical odds.

As the point creep goes higher, so do those tags that you currently can plan for. Sure, right now you can say “I know I can hunt elk in that particular unit when I have four points.” But as more point creep occurs and those “small cap” units that used to take 25 points now take 40, your unit you used to be able to hunt with 2,3,4 points now takes 12, 13, 14

I have a family member with 25 elk preference points in Washington, he’s 75 years old. He has a “decent” chance of drawing the tag before he can’t hunt anymore. But the generation below him will without a doubt see that point number go substantially higher.

There’s no chance that any argument in favor of any point system will sway my opinion.


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[WRO]

As the point creep goes higher, so do those tags that you currently can plan for. Sure, right now you can say “I know I can hunt elk in that particular unit when I have four points.” But as more point creep occurs and those “small cap” units that used to take 25 points now take 40, your unit you used to be able to hunt with 2,3,4 points now takes 12, 13, 14

I have a family member with 25 elk preference points in Washington, he’s 75 years old. He has a “decent” chance of drawing the tag before he can’t hunt anymore. But the generation below him will without a doubt see that point number go substantially higher.

There’s no chance that any argument in favor of any point system will sway my opinion.


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I wouldn’t use Washington as an example for anything.. Almost no quality tags (QTY) available and tons of applicants, no system would change that.

For residents, there’s several units that have remained relatively stable across multiple hunts.

NR is a whole different beast as there are significantly more applicants in most states and cuts in NR quotas.

 

[WeiserBucks]

I wouldn’t use Washington as an example for anything..

Why not? Because the point system has proven to be a failure?

 

[WRO]

Why not? Because the point system has proven to be a failure?

Because the state is a failure with regards hunter opportunities and game management.

That’s why there all hunting in Idaho.

Grew up there, it’s a shit state to hunt in.

 

[WeiserBucks]

Every states point system is a failure, not just the ones you don't care for.

 

[Wprinkle]

Every states point system is a failure, not just the ones you don't care for.

Absolutely true!! And then there is Arizona where you have to have a degree in chinese arithmetic to figure out lol

 

[WRO]

Absolutely true!! And then there is Arizona where you have to have a degree in chinese arithmetic to figure out lol

Nevada yes, Az no it’s just simply looking at get points pass to see guaranteed and then the bonus pass is for random tags.

Applying in Az is a nightmare for sure.

I liked Oregon’s when I was a resident there, I didn’t start at the bottom on points but it was pretty predictable and most mid tier tags and low tier tags stabilized point range wise and the 25% pool was good to me a couple times.

That being said I completely understand people not liking point systems.