IADNR bans cell cam "scouting" during hunting season

[dtrkyman]

I managed a bunch of ground for years, had tons of regular cams out, I got a deer on cam he was toast, cell cams would be even more effective, I'm all for it.

 

[Elkangle]

Lol I've ran over 30 cell cameras and still got my ass kicked... I really don't think you guys will ever be "happy"...the same dudes being successful with cell cams will be the same dudes that are successful with out them...

If it's not your thing don't use it, stop thinking your saving the world with never ending changes

 

[MallardSX2]

the same dudes being successful with cell cams will be the same dudes that are successful with out them...

You’re in your freaking sleep dude. Lol

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

Lol I've ran over 30 cell cameras and still got my ass kicked... I really don't think you guys will ever be "happy"...the same dudes being successful with cell cams will be the same dudes that are successful with out them...

If it's not your thing don't use it, stop thinking your saving the world with never ending changes

Not trying to save the world. Just trying to put a little chance, luck, and skill back into hunting in IA.

I never owned a cell cam and stopped using regular cams 3 years ago. I’ve been fortunate to kill many very nice bucks on around 80 acres of private ground with bow, shotgun, muzzleloader, and rifle. This is even when the neighbor has huge food plots and better habitat in general.

Put the crutches away and go hunt. You may enjoy having the mystery put back into hunting instead of having an encyclopedia of every animal in the area and everywhere they go and take a dump. I know I do.

 

[go4thegusto]

Then you should be able to wait until tomorrow to see the pictures.

Cell cameras are cheating. It's well beyond the bounds of fair chase.

Also, your rifle vs stick bow "analogy" is not even close. Start your lobby against optics and center fires whenever you're ready.

I agree. A guy I know well was sitting in the office. His phone pinged and the local big buck he hadn't seen in months walked by his camera in to the bedding point on a river loop. His stand is at the funnel where they come out. He left the office, beat feet out there 50 miles, and killed that buck a few hours later.
Ban them!

 

[wind gypsy]

I’d be kind of bummed if I didn’t have some just to look at daily pic updates but I’m against using them for real time hunting purposes. It sounds like a guy could still use them if they were set to send pictures at say midnight so they weren’t being used for real time location info while hunting.

I love seeing how the food plots and such change with time. I don’t even shoot deer hardly anymore.. haven’t pulled the trigger on my personal land yet and bought it in ‘21. Lots of deer watching. I enjoy the pictures and habitat work more than shooting stuff.

 

[N2TRKYS]

Not trying to save the world. Just trying to put a little chance, luck, and skill back into hunting in IA.

I never owned a cell cam and stopped using regular cams 3 years ago. I’ve been fortunate to kill many very nice bucks on around 80 acres of private ground with bow, shotgun, muzzleloader, and rifle. This is even when the neighbor has huge food plots and better habitat in general.

Put the crutches away and go hunt. You may enjoy having the mystery put back into hunting instead of having an encyclopedia of every animal in the area and everywhere they go and take a dump. I know I do.

Or leave everyone else alone and let them hunt how they want.

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

Or leave everyone else alone and let them hunt how they want.

I think you mean, “…leave me alone and let me hunt “my” deer.”

The problem with your attitude and many other folks is that they’re NOT YOUR deer.

Hunting the way you hunt gives an unfair advantage to you over your neighbors but most importantly the deer.

Running cell cams to gain the advantage in killing trophy bucks is akin to running forward facing sonar on a bass boat to target trophy bass. However, you can’t catch and release deer.

 

[WiscoHoundsman]

Not Iowa related but I have seen them be extremely effective for bear hunting in Wisconsin. A guy I know was hunting with me one day and looked at his phone and said a bear hit his is bear bait 10 minutes ago. He left and went and dumped a pack of hounds on that bear only because he knew the track would be screaming hot. You can have as many baits and cameras out in Wisconsin as you want. Doesn’t seem fair to me and the guys I currently hunt with don’t use them. We hunt a large area so knowing a bear just moved 10 or 20 miles away would make it quite a bit easier to kill one.

 

[TSAMP]

I think ill wait for the actual regs to come out before I worry much about this. Two dudes on YouTube don't mean much in my book.

Thanks for the heads up though.

 

[eightyeight mag]

There is nothing more annoying than being in the woods and hearing click click click as some ahole’s camera goes off. Learn how to freaking hunt.

 

[Elkangle]

Not trying to save the world. Just trying to put a little chance, luck, and skill back into hunting in IA.

I never owned a cell cam and stopped using regular cams 3 years ago. I’ve been fortunate to kill many very nice bucks on around 80 acres of private ground with bow, shotgun, muzzleloader, and rifle. This is even when the neighbor has huge food plots and better habitat in general.

Put the crutches away and go hunt. You may enjoy having the mystery put back into hunting instead of having an encyclopedia of every animal in the area and everywhere they go and take a dump. I know I do.

Wait you've never used them ? So You have zero experience with what it's like to hunt with them ? But you know the way you do it is better? That's impressive

 

[Bowfinatic]

All the guys that don't use them are the vocal ones saying yeah learn to hunt blah blah blah

I hate the ban
Extremely valuable tool. Let's me keep tabs on property hrs away. Way lower impact not having to go in and check them

It has increased our success certainly but big bucks still win most of the time.

 

[SandyCreek]

The state owns/manages the wild life. They don't belong to people just because they're living on their property. Thus the state gets to say how they're hunted and attempt to ensure fair chase.

yeah.. didn't say land owners own the wildlife but you own the land.. who are they to tell you you can't put a camera up around gates or cattle or buildings. Personally i dont think we need more laws and gov intervention

 

[MallardSX2]

Let's see how the HP does on that public land now.....lol

 

[SandyCreek]

I think you mean, “…leave me alone and let me hunt “my” deer.”

The problem with your attitude and many other folks is that they’re NOT YOUR deer.

Hunting the way you hunt gives an unfair advantage to you over your neighbors but most importantly the deer.

Running cell cams to gain the advantage in killing trophy bucks is akin to running forward facing sonar on a bass boat to target trophy bass. However, you can’t catch and release deer.

there are zero people here claiming they are "our" deer. feel like you are approaching this with a sour grapes attitude and want everyone to do everything the way you do it. We run a couple cell cams that are set on a once every 24 hr cycle to send on some scrapes because its just cool to see whats out there when your stuck at work, not one of them has directly contributed to us killing a buck. we also have some that are on immediate picture mode for entrances and buildings. In the end it doesn't matter because we still will kill a couple booners every year. Its just unfortunate for the guy that only gets to hunt on a saturday, and with all the things going on I'm to the point where I am against any more laws or gov intervention. Bottom line is the dirt bags out there doing dirt bag stuff will continue to do so and us law abiding folks will have to continue to jump through hoops.

 

[prm]

Having hunted in an area where there were a number of other hunters who covered the area in cameras, I’m all for this. Id be way back in an area, stop, and there would be a camera staring at me. It was like being in China with monitoring everywhere. I hated it.

 

[Lawnboi]

This is good. Rich people are running 100 cell cams on 14 different properties and only going to the one with their stupid named deer when it shows up.

That’s not hunting.

Just my opinion but I put cell cams right there with drones.

 

[Yoder]

Then you should be able to wait until tomorrow to see the pictures.

Cell cameras are cheating. It's well beyond the bounds of fair chase.

Also, your rifle vs stick bow "analogy" is not even close. Start your lobby against optics and center fires whenever you're ready.

Cell cams not being fair chase is just YOUR opinion. I have no problem waiting 12 or 24hrs to see pictures. I just think that is impossible to enforce.

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

there are zero people here claiming they are "our" deer.

Agree to disagree. I've been deer hunting in Iowa for more than 25 years, and there are lots of individuals and land owners that 100% treat the deer that frequent their property as "their" deer. This is especially evident when a neighbor kills one of "their" "hit list" bucks, which inevitably starts the rumor mill about whether they did it legally, and when the last time they had the buck on cam was, yada, yada, yada. God forbid that the buck took a different path that wasn't completely tracked via cell cam footage.

feel like you are approaching this with a sour grapes attitude and want everyone to do everything the way you do it.

I have zero sour grapes. I've killed a ton of nice bucks in my lifetime. I and others are simply trying to advocate for the resource, not guys with horn porn addictions that drive them to use nearly whatever means necessary to kill a 'booner every year for their social media pages or to grow their outfitting business.

Its just unfortunate for the guy that only gets to hunt on a saturday, and with all the things going on I'm to the point where I am against any more laws or gov intervention.

You nailed a key point right here, and that is the concept of time to hunt. More than anything else, I think lots of folks that have been successful killing nice whitetails over the years would say that putting in your time in the stand to learn about the animals is one of, if not the most, important thing. Nobody is "entitled" to kill a deer. If somebody can only go on the weekends, that sucks. We've all been there at one point or another and figured out how to get into the deer woods more often to hunt. Having cell cams that enable you to drop everything and run out and kill something cheapens hunting at a minimum.

Bottom line is the dirt bags out there doing dirt bag stuff will continue to do so and us law abiding folks will have to continue to jump through hoops.

I've never said once that using cell cams for property security monitoring was bad. I'm not sure how that keeps getting thrown in here, and I think this is a great usage of the tool for catching trespassers.