How Will Vehicles Change With New Government Regulations

[Marshfly]

The ford and Lincoln’s are already using the gpf system, they are trash, surprise surprise.

I mean, it's trash on diesels also.

I don't "use" my diesel much in the winter so it has to regen a ton. Already once this winter it has gotten to 100% and I had to do a manual regeneration. That's 30 minutes sitting at a very high idle "burning off" that exact same particulate that not supposed to come out of the pipe. All in a single place. So stupid.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

I mean, it's trash on diesels also.

I don't "use" my diesel much in the winter so it has to regen a ton. Already once this winter it has gotten to 100% and I had to do a manual regeneration. That's 30 minutes sitting at a very high idle "burning off" that exact same particulate that not supposed to come out of the pipe. All in a single place. So stupid.

Trust me I work on the everyday, I know your pain. Only way I will drive 07 or newer is fully deleted. In diehard 5.9 guy so just makes easier buying pre emissions trucks. Its 6-7 grand to delete a new one the right one. That buys a lot of go fast, trans and parts for the older stuff lol.

 

[Marshfly]

Trust me I work on the everyday, I know your pain. Only way I will drive 07 or newer is fully deleted. In diehard 5.9 guy so just makes easier buying pre emissions trucks. Its 6-7 grand to delete a new one the right one. That buys a lot of go fast, trans and parts for the older stuff lol.

I get all that but I just like newer stuff. When I have to take an 8-12 hour drive across the state to hunt I want to be comfortable. My wife wants to be comfortable. I'm not interested in old tired seats, crappy stereos, loud interiors, etc. I'm spoiled. LOL. I get it.

But I make enough money to buy what I want so I do. I mostly buy trucks a year old and get rid of them by about 100k so never have many issues. Someone else takes that big first year depreciation hit and I'm out before the big 100k mile value drop.

All that said, I really am liking this 2023 F350 KR I bought in November. I may spend the money to delete this one when the warranty is up and keep it for a while. Would be cool if I could just call a local shop and get it done though. haha

 

[displacedtexan]

I would love for the government to get out of pushing EV's period. I would also like for them to take the Def out of diesels. I would also like them to stop raising the company gas mileage rate so that companies stop trying to force EV down our throats.

DEF will be going away as injection technology continues to improve.

There's already Tier 3 off-road stuff without it.

 

[Predator_SD]

I get all that but I just like newer stuff. When I have to take an 8-12 hour drive across the state to hunt I want to be comfortable. My wife wants to be comfortable. I'm not interested in old tired seats, crappy stereos, loud interiors, etc. I'm spoiled. LOL. I get it.

But I make enough money to buy what I want so I do. I mostly buy trucks a year old and get rid of them by about 100k so never have many issues. Someone else takes that big first year depreciation hit and I'm out before the big 100k mile value drop.

All that said, I really am liking this 2023 F350 KR I bought in November. I may spend the money to delete this one when the warranty is up and keep it for a while. Would be cool if I could just call a local shop and get it done though. haha

You only drive a truck 100,000 miles? WOW, that’s crazy man.

 

[Marshfly]

You only drive a truck 100,000 miles? WOW, that’s crazy man.

Why? Let's hear all the ways that how I spend my money is crazy to you.

 

[TaperPin]

We have 150k on one vehicle and are deciding on a new gas truck.

We’ve been told prices are coming down before the election, now Trump says prices are hard to reduce, and just this morning Vance back pedals further and says prices can’t come down until oil prices come down. Ok, Biden dipped into the national reserve and pulled international favors to reduce prices to artificially low levels, so to overcome that and actually make a dent in world oil will be nice to see, but isn’t going to happen overnight.

Tariffs effect every imported product, or domestic producer that buys anything imported - so no parts are going to escape some amount of price increase. Ok, prices are not going down, but will be going up. That’s best case. Not every nation is just going to sit back, so here will be trade wars to some extent. Worst case it contributes to a global recession.

Deporting every illegal is 20% or more of the work force in many agricultural and construction fields. Prices are going to go up for anyone who eats or lives in a house, no question about it.

Trump and Elon are in position to force an increase in the national debt limit to pay for the various costly new projects, and to give them tax breaks at our expense.

All the signs say make do with what you have, don’t make any new purchases unless it’s right now, and hope better ideas eventually come out of Washington. Folks voted for sound bites - this is what it is actually going to look like.

 

[roadrunner]

I suspect you will see more hybrid type offerings over the next 5 to 10 years.

Carbon based fuel isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[TaperPin]

 

[WV Mountaineer]

This should be a good one....

I've been semi in the market for a new truck for a little while. Now that we have a new administration in the white house, how do you see vehicles changing in the coming years? When would you pull the trigger on a purchase?

Thanks!

Well, I’d wait if I could. They likely won’t get any more expensive then they are currently. Coming down is about all they can do.

 

[displacedtexan]

Well, I’d wait if I could. They likely won’t get any more expensive then they are currently. Coming down is about all they can do.

When have new vehicles ever gotten cheaper?

 

[wyosam]

Well, I’d wait if I could. They likely won’t get any more expensive then they are currently. Coming down is about all they can do.

Prices have about the same chance of coming down as a unanimous vote happening in the House or Senate.


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[WV Mountaineer]

I agree to your point. But, consumers control the price of things. Not producers. Times are going to get tougher. That’s a guarantee. The only unknown is when.

 

[CJ19]

Good lord. The degree that so many of the regular TDS suffers on this forum are desperate to believe anything that suggests Trump is bad is astounding. Yahoo finance? Really? Thats were we are going for our analysis with this subject? With gems like "<The president> doesnt have much control over what these companies do" and "We dont really know what the effect that drill baby drill will have on these companies because their private." Both patently wrong on this subject. It is about the level of nonsense I would expect from Yahoo and 5 minute segment media.

My advice is dont go to yahoo for advice on this subject. People need to stop linking video and news clips for people to research. People can go find news clips of any perspective if they want them. They add nothing to this discussion or any other for the most part. As for car buying, prices are not coming down on cars at dealers even though there are too many.

 

[displacedtexan]

Good lord. The degree that so many of the regular TDS suffers on this forum are desperate to believe anything that suggests Trump is bad is astounding. Yahoo finance? Really? Thats were we are going for our analysis with this subject? With gems like "<The president> doesnt have much control over what these companies do" and "We dont really know what the effect that drill baby drill will have on these companies because their private." Both patently wrong on this subject. It is about the level of nonsense I would expect from Yahoo and 5 minute segment media.

My advice is dont go to yahoo for advice on this subject. People need to stop linking video and news clips for people to research. People can go find news clips of any perspective if they want them. They add nothing to this discussion or any other for the most part. As for car buying, prices are not coming down on cars at dealers even though there are too many.

Cheap oil isn't profitable to drill for...

 

[gbflyer]

DEF will be going away as injection technology continues to improve.

There's already Tier 3 off-road stuff without it.

Please elaborate. All of my new off road stuff is Tier 4. Tier 3 is yesterday. DPF/DEF system 75hp and up today. If someone is making them with no DEF I need to know so I can change brands.

 

[displacedtexan]

Please elaborate. All of my new off road stuff is Tier 4. Tier 3 is yesterday. DPF/DEF system 75hp and up today.

Sorry. 4.

I believe it's Cat. Brand new, no DEF, well over the 75hp.

 

[CJ19]

Cheap oil isn't profitable to drill for...

i didnt say it was. The statements I highlighted are in quotes. I am not really interested in discussing oil prices. You don't know where they are headed, the analyst said he didn't know, and I don't know. But i do know that the president(s) past and present have enormous influence over petroleum prices and companies and we know exactly what impact implementing drill baby drill will have when the last administration's policy was phase it out and hundreds of millions of acres of restricted area.

 

[NDGuy]

New Hummers for everyone

 

[displacedtexan]

i didnt say it was. The statements I highlighted are in quotes. I am not really interested in discussing oil prices. You don't know where they are headed, the analyst said he didn't know, and I don't know. But i do know that the president(s) past and present have enormous influence over petroleum prices and companies and we know exactly what impact implementing drill baby drill will have when the last administration's policy was phase it out and hundreds of millions of acres of restricted area.

Permission to drill doesn't correlate to drilling.

The lowest oil price ever was under the last administration.