High Country Fishing Trip

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My GF and I have done a high country fishing trip the first week of July for the last 3 years. I've been on an informal mission to fish every lake in the Weminuche. I say "informal" because I'm not exactly sure what that means -what counts as "fishing" a lake? Catching a fish? spending a few hours fishing? putting a line in the water? There are also a bunch of lakes and limited information on stocking history. A lot of these lakes were stocked by airplane at some point, but it may have been 20+ years ago. Many lakes don't support breeding very well if at all. I've hiked to lakes that reportedly had fish in them as of X amount of years ago to find them dead. I've also found fish in unnamed lakes that don't seem deep enough to support survival through the winter. So, I'm not even sure how many lakes currently have fish, when some lakes may be restocked and if certain lakes have already gone dead. I'm just knocking off a few new lakes each summer, revisiting my staples and talking to climbers when I run into them in the deep backcountry as they usually have the most reliable info on seeing surface strikes or not in these remote lakes while they are accessing peaks. Climbers know way more about which remote lakes have fish than any angler around.

On this trip, rather than backpacking around every day, we set up a basecamp at a centralized lake and knocked off 3 from the list.

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The first 3 days out were super stormy. It would start storming around noon and not stop until 7- 9 PM. I'm talking boomers: thunder, lightning, hail, grapple, hard rain, freezing rain.... As a result, we were spending ~18 hours a day cooped up in the tent with only a 6 hours window to get out and about. We ended up having to come out a day earlier than planned because we ate all of our food while laying around so much. The mornings, however, we're nice, though chilly at 12,500 -12,800 feet.

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Now this is my kind of lake: Sits in a deep hole so its protected from the wind. Surrounded by scree slopes with minimal or no willow. This means you can stretch out your casting without snagging on willow. Willow sucks. Wind is frustrating. No trail access and 35+ degree scree slopes keep the riffraff out.

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High country fish can be super temperamental. Most years during the early season, all you have to do is put a line in the water most any time of the day with something on it and you'll catch fish, sometimes on every single cast. I like fishing alpine lakes because I'm not a very good angler. This year was different. The only way we could catch anything at all was to see a fish and put a fly directly in front of its path -we didn't catch anything all week on blind casts. We did't catch anything on nymphs. We didn't get a single fish go out of its way in the slightest to bite a fly. They seemed to have plenty food, were content to only feed during short windows and not interested in putting any effort at all for a meal.

IMG_7666.jpgThis one required crossing over a 13,000 foot pass so, with the storms, we had to wait for the right weather window. We went for it on day 5, though the clouds were questionable all day. I brought a small tarp so we could potentially take some shelter if it stormed, which it seemed as if it could at any moment all day, but never materialized.

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A little bit of mountaineering, navigating some goat trails, deciding between bushwacking willow or skidding down scree and we landed at this larger, very deep lake that has had fish in the past, at least as recent as 2 years ago according to a YT video of a goat hunter who caught a fish here. I saw what I thought was a dead fish laying on the bottom near the edge, but couldn't be sure. Only about 50% of the shoreline was fishable as half the lake is either completely choked out of willow or cliffed out. The water was clear and the visibility was excellent: I could see 8-15 feet deep and 10-12 feet out from the shore, but I never saw a single fish or a surface strike. We cast nymphs far, wide and deep and spent several hours here, but nothin'. Maybe they were all holed up on the far side of the lake, maybe they all died out this winter, maybe they all died of old age because I doubt this lake supports any successful breeding as there isn't anywhere shallow.

I suppose the question is, if I'm attempting to fish every lake in the Weminuche and that's going to take some amount of years, if CPW cropdusts this lake with a few thousand fingerlings, do I have to go back and actually catch a fish, or does this effort count? Completely arbitrary, I suppose.
 
NIce, I will be out that way next week. I will have a fly rod and might explore a bit
 
Awesome looking trip! If your goal is to hike in to each lake then it seems like the journey is really the goal - not catching fish, because like you said many lakes are fishless. The really good alpine lakes usually have selective fish that are very difficult to catch as well so it could take you several visits which is a pretty big time commitment for remote water. There was a lake at 12k near RMNP that I was obsessed with for several years because it had a low population of well fed monster cutthroats, it took me over 5 trips up there to finally catch one. I probably missed out on some other good lakes, trips, and scenery trying to catch one of those hogs. Those were the pickiest trout I've ever fished for anywhere, including technical tailwaters. In Rich Osthoffs backcountry fishing book there is a chapter called "speed scouting lakes", maybe you've read it already but there are some good tips for the particular mission you have.
 
Awesome looking trip! If your goal is to hike in to each lake then it seems like the journey is really the goal - not catching fish, because like you said many lakes are fishless. The really good alpine lakes usually have selective fish that are very difficult to catch as well so it could take you several visits which is a pretty big time commitment for remote water. There was a lake at 12k near RMNP that I was obsessed with for several years because it had a low population of well fed monster cutthroats, it took me over 5 trips up there to finally catch one. I probably missed out on some other good lakes, trips, and scenery trying to catch one of those hogs. Those were the pickiest trout I've ever fished for anywhere, including technical tailwaters. In Rich Osthoffs backcountry fishing book there is a chapter called "speed scouting lakes", maybe you've read it already but there are some good tips for the particular mission you have.

I'll have to look into this book. Frankly, I've never found the idea of reading books about fishing to be very interesting, but I just added it to my Kindle.

When you were hitting that lake 5x, was there an occasion where you didn't see any evidence of fish at all? They were entirely inactive for no explicable reason? My perennial lakes that I hit, it seems that fish are always active to some extent, but, then again, that may be why they are my perennial lakes.
Its interesting how fish will be minimally active in one lake and you can walk .25 miles over the hill to the next one and there are 100 surface strikes at any given moment.
 
I'll have to look into this book. Frankly, I've never found the idea of reading books about fishing to be very interesting, but I just added it to my Kindle.

When you were hitting that lake 5x, was there an occasion where you didn't see any evidence of fish at all? They were entirely inactive for no explicable reason? My perennial lakes that I hit, it seems that fish are always active to some extent, but, then again, that may be why they are my perennial lakes.
Its interesting how fish will be minimally active in one lake and you can walk .25 miles over the hill to the next one and there are 100 surface strikes at any given moment.

There were definitely days when that lake appeared completely fishless. Had I been someone that didn't know they were there I might have fished it once and never returned. I would only see those cutthroats on perfectly calm days and even then an hour or two would go by between sightings. They very rarely surfaced. For a 10 or 12 acre lake I estimated maybe only 25 fish total, and they all looked to be in the 5+lb range. They were super selective and clearly had plenty to eat. I had a similar experience with a golden trout lake in Wyoming as well. I had a banner day one summer where I was sight fishing them until my arm was too tired. The very next summer I thought it had winter killed until I saw one surface just as I was packing up to leave.

Your observation of 2 lakes nearby but having completely different conditions is why I think you'll like that book. I used some of his info and then kinda came up with my own formula for fishing new lakes where a few key indicators will help determine if I want to spend time there or move on. Some of that book is really boring, just read the chapters that sound relevant to how you like to fish. The lake data is pretty outdated anyway.
 
Looks more like a great experience more than a fishing trip. That's some great country.
 
Man looks like a good way to spend a few days and the bad weather just adds to the future stories.


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Awesome looking trip! If your goal is to hike in to each lake then it seems like the journey is really the goal - not catching fish, because like you said many lakes are fishless. The really good alpine lakes usually have selective fish that are very difficult to catch as well so it could take you several visits which is a pretty big time commitment for remote water. There was a lake at 12k near RMNP that I was obsessed with for several years because it had a low population of well fed monster cutthroats, it took me over 5 trips up there to finally catch one. I probably missed out on some other good lakes, trips, and scenery trying to catch one of those hogs. Those were the pickiest trout I've ever fished for anywhere, including technical tailwaters. In Rich Osthoffs backcountry fishing book there is a chapter called "speed scouting lakes", maybe you've read it already but there are some good tips for the particular mission you have.
Been to maybe the same lake in the JP wilderness haha cuttthroats as long as your arm and they will turn their nose up at just about everything as they cruise the shore laughing at you, lots of false pursuits only to turn away right before a strike… it drives you mad
 
Man looks like a good way to spend a few days and the bad weather just adds to the future stories.


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I always seem to encounter extreme weather up high during the first week of July -its an easy week for me to take off work so I always do an extended trip regardless of the forecast. On one hand, you tend to quickly forget how bad it can actually be (though, laying around in a tent for 16-18 hours days on end will definitely lead to your body starting to ache all over), on the other hand, intimately witnessing the power of high country storms can be pretty awe inspiring. Lots of reading, lots of card games to pass the time. and long naps.
 
I always seem to encounter extreme weather up high during the first week of July -its an easy week for me to take off work so I always do an extended trip regardless of the forecast. On one hand, you tend to quickly forget how bad it can actually be (though, laying around in a tent for 16-18 hours days on end will definitely lead to your body starting to ache all over), on the other hand, intimately witnessing the power of high country storms can be pretty awe inspiring. Lots of reading, lots of card games to pass the time. and long naps.

Yes the power of mountain storms can make a guy feel real small real quick. It also makes you appreciate a good air mattress haha bc I know I my back hates it after a few hours.


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Yes the power of mountain storms can make a guy feel real small real quick. It also makes you appreciate a good air mattress haha bc I know I my back hates it after a few hours.


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Yeah, I was getting fairly miserable and my setup is fairly dialed.
Another important aspect is a spacious tent. you'll go nuts sitting through those kinds of storms in dog house.
 
Been to maybe the same lake in the JP wilderness haha cuttthroats as long as your arm and they will turn their nose up at just about everything as they cruise the shore laughing at you, lots of false pursuits only to turn away right before a strike… it drives you mad
I'm not going to out this lake on the internet even though I haven't fished it in 10 years, but I used to ride my mountain bike from my house to the tunnel so I know the lake you are referring to as well. I highly doubt the conditions there have survived the social media whore onslaught of Instagram and youtube. Thank God I got to fish it before all that crap.
 
I'm not going to out this lake on the internet even though I haven't fished it in 10 years, but I used to ride my mountain bike from my house to the tunnel so I know the lake you are referring to as well. I highly doubt the conditions there have survived the social media whore onslaught of Instagram and youtube. Thank God I got to fish it before all that crap.
Yep same spot, last I fished it was about 6 years ago, still some bigguns around, man they would frustrate me to no end… but if you get too dejected you head to lower lake and beat up stupid brookies for an hour haha
 
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