Here I thought Ryan Lamper was one of the good guys for the hunting world…

This is crazy since, as we all know, prosecutors never over charge on allegations and the facts are always as law enforcement allege. /s

I’m always interested in the weird Venn diagram of dudes who don’t trust the government yet always immediately believe allegations as presented by local governments and then reported by the media.

I hope it’s not true, but some of it certainly could be.
 
Minute_of_Antelope said:
This is crazy since, as we all know, prosecutors never over charge on allegations and the facts are always as law enforcement allege. /s

I’m always interested in the weird Venn diagram of dudes who don’t trust the government yet always immediately believe allegations as presented by local governments and then reported by the media.

I hope it’s not true, but some of it certainly could be.
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Typically, Fish and Game cases take years to develop before charges are filed. Given that this happened 10 months ago and charges have been filed, it's reasonable to assume the State has a solid case, either based on the evidence or his confession. The fact that he has removed his online presence and is not standing on his large soapbox of followers proclaiming his innocence seems odd. Still, as with everyone in our great country, he is innocent until proven guilty. If he is found innocent, then I accept that; if he is found guilty, then I hope he loses his hunting rights for life.
 
mtnbound said:
Typically, Fish and Game cases take years to develop before charges are filed. Given that this happened 10 months ago and charges have been filed, it's reasonable to assume the State has a solid case, either based on the evidence or his confession. The fact that he has removed his online presence and is not standing on his large soapbox of followers proclaiming his innocence seems odd. Still, as with everyone in our great country, he is innocent until proven guilty. If he is found innocent, then I accept that; if he is found guilty, then I hope he loses his hunting rights for life.
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Well said. Those of us that see things like this play out repeatedly over time might expect something like a lesser plea on a couple charges in exchange for dropping many of the others. It’s why the pros typically overcharge like I said.

Now, what does that legal phenomenon mean for what an accused did or didn’t actually do? We’ll never know.

But the whole rush to judgement thing is lame and is a bit pitchfork-rube like.
 
He clearly wasn't stealthy enough. This is a tough one, ive met Ryan and his family when he lived in Wa and he shared so much and literally couldn't wait to get into the back woods. I hope he comes out of this ok, guilty or not.
 
IdahoHntr said:
Not defending, but to be fair all the charges could be explained by him honestly thinking he was in unit 28 instead of 21. 28 and 21 border each other. Reduced lion tags are even good in a lot of 21. 28 was legally open for all the species (reduced mountain lion would have to be in wilderness only).

Now it makes no sense how he could make that mistake, especially if you are familiar with those unit boundaries. Makes me think it was likely a deliberate act of deception, but nonetheless, it is possibly an honest mistake of unit boundaries.

Don’t really have a dog in the fight, so crucify him if you want, the story didn’t really accurately tell the facts unless you actually know the area and the associated seasons.
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With things like on X on every device possible now days, it’s almost impossible to make this type of mistake. Possible? I guess, incredibly implausible, yes. Unlikely for a “hunter” of this caliber, also yes.
 
Minute_of_Antelope said:
This is crazy since, as we all know, prosecutors never over charge on allegations and the facts are always as law enforcement allege. /s

I’m always interested in the weird Venn diagram of dudes who don’t trust the government yet always immediately believe allegations as presented by local governments and then reported by the media.

I hope it’s not true, but some of it certainly could be.
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The difference is state fish and game agency’s generally don’t miss often. That’s because it takes an enormous amount of money, time and resources to build cases like this, and they don’t bother with ones that don’t already have a shit load of evidence.

State fish and game is like the fed, they don’t take or prosecute cases they think there is even a small chance they lose often.

No idea who this is, but I’d imagine with the charges they have a pretty good idea how it will play out.
 
These wannabe hunting / shooting/ firearms self proclaimed internet experts/influencers are not good for our sport. Almost all of them are one trick ponies and only knowledgeable on one maybe two subjects. But they pontificate as experts on everything hunting/shooting and gun related. They are 💯% self serving. They don’t care about us sportsman and only look at us as $$ signs. Their egos are large to begin with, most are of minimum intelligence, they start to believe their own B.S. . This is when their egos get even larger and they get themselves in legal troubles , crossing ethical lines to feed their egos and monetize the wildlife that they poach. The shooting/hunting/gun influencers are cancer to our sport. I consider the internet influencers parasites . Anyone who poaches, not for food, but trophy animals needs to be locked up for awhile and loose all hunting/ gun/outdoor privileges. A second offense should cause a lifetime ban.
 
Mtnman84 said:
I’m not suprised, ran into him and Brian in the backcountry a few years back. Ryan was borderline confrontational, acted like he owned the place.
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Can’t say I’m surprised, tbh. I heard a story from a buddy who had a similar encounter with that group (Lampers in particular) but in NV. Didn’t sound too personable and, from what I was told, they left quite a mess/trashy camp behind which is super disappointing 🤷‍♂️
 
Ill have to say Lampers would have been about the last guy in the industry I would expect this from.

I agree with what someone said above, someone ratted him out. The charges are top specific for him to have been caught organically.

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About the only things worse than an instafluncer poacher is the fan boys and other influencer Bros that rush to defend them. It’s truly classless and gross.
Maybe he just went off the rails in 2024 but seems like that’s quite the jump, I would bet he’s been like this whole time and just got caught.
 
RyanT26 said:
About the only things worse than an instafluncer poacher is the fan boys and other influencer Bros that rush to defend them. It’s truly classless and gross.
Maybe he just went off the rails in 2024 but seems like that’s quite the jump, I would bet he’s been like this whole time and just got caught.
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Yea I’d have to agree. Of course these charges are mere accusations, but for him to illegally kill 3 animals, the dude was comfortable doing it.
 
Billy Goat said:
The number of convictions, and the companies who don't care.

If you boycott it seems like more than half the gear is off the list of possibilities.

I still try.
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I had never heard of this guy until I saw this thread. I don’t pay any attention to sponsorships. Some dude or gal wearing gear by X company is just a paid actor in a “reality show.”

If you don’t like these people or disapprove of their actions, stop giving your time and attention to the product they are selling: themselves.


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