Heel slip

[Kebler]

I looked into the ways to lace boots to prevent heel slippage, I'm only getting it on one foot. The rei video and method feels like it will work the best, I am doing another long training hump, 18 miles.

so with the new method and some leukotape I'm hopping this solves the issue. My hunt is coming fast, don't have time or funds to buy new boots. But if this don't work, I may just buy the salomon quest and hope they work.

 

[Mmcan]

I have the Lowa tibet talls size 12, and have had to experiment with a variety of insoles and lacing techniques. I like the New Balance insoles that have a good arch support and are "motion control" because it fills some of the volume of the boot (which is much higher volume than my Lowa Camino GTX Flex (way comfortable and size 12 fits perfectly so I was surprised that the Tibet's fit so differently when I ordered them online (NOBODY has this boot ANYWHERE in north Texas)))

Anyway, try some of the lacing techniques this video demonstrates. They have helped me immensely, but i still take along leukotape and moleskin just in case I get a hot spot.

http://video.search.yahoo.com/video...=11ac7si8b&sigt=11880o9nv&age=0&fr=aaplw&tt=b

 

[greyghostnw]

if your heel slips its simply the wrong boot. imop by trying to make a boot work with non stock footbeds your creating more issues. by adding footbeds of different thickness other than what the boot came with you are changing the way the heel cup/pocket was designed to hold a heel in place vertically. i believe it is a better option to find a boot that fits with stock footbeds thickness wise and go from there. to be honest i hate custom footbeds in anything other than my ski boots. i find the stock footbeds work best in my mountain boots.

you sound like you may have a similar foot. narrow heel wider forefoot. the scarpa triolet and salewa rapache are a few options with full rands and heel welts for automatic crampons with minimal shanks in the soul. ie not very stiff and walk well, the front from your ball of foot forward will rock as you walk unlike more of a mixed climbing to mountaineering boot ie la sportiva nepal evo or the new cube.( the cube is awesome) and both sidehill well while allowing the ability to knife into steeper terrain. zappos and moosejaw are great places to order boots to try with free shipping both ways, good luck

 

[westrnwild]

Salwea boots are really narrow, and they have a unique heel system. I cant wear them cause I have a wide feet in the fore foot, but my friend has super narrow heels and the salwea boots work great for him. Worth a shot...

 

[greyghostnw]

not all of them are...... the rapache and mid mtn trainer are not narrow up front. the alp trainer is crazy narrow heel and forefoot but the rapache was not nor the mid mtn trainer. the rapache has light insulation the mid does not.

 

[westrnwild]

not all of them are...... the rapache and mid mtn trainer are not narrow up front. the alp trainer is crazy narrow heel and forefoot but the rapache was not nor the mid mtn trainer. the rapache has light insulation the mid does not.

Yeah he has the alps trainers and the wildfires I think. Super narrow to me

 

[Blackcow]

I have a wide forefoot and a narrow heel, also. One thing I've found over the years wearing a lot of different boots, is that any boot with a full, or sometimes even 3/4 shank, is just prone to heel slip.Even if you have a "normal" foot. One of my favorite boots, that Lowa doesn't make anymore, is the banff pro LL. I think its the baffling now. I despised them for many taped heel miles, but slowly the leather upper softened and creased and the sole eased up by the ball of my foot. How many miles? Hundreds. And a ton of vert. Same thing with my Tibet's and sheep hunters. Its like they have to learn to hike uphill like plastics or something. Having said that, when I couldn't stand it anymore and my feet and heels needed a break, I'd put on the salomons. Great fitting boot outta the box.Just wish the sole held up better for me, but GREAT boots.

 

[greyghostnw]

Yeah he has the alps trainers and the wildfires I think. Super narrow to me

ya i could not even get the alp trainer on it was so narrow.

 

[cleatus]

I also have the same issue. I run the scarpa triolet with orange super feet insoles. If i lace them really tight they stay put. While hiking I like them laced tight. When I stop to glass after about an hour my feet start to hurt, so now I just loosen them up when I stop for any length of time. Hope this helps. It sucks spending hundred of dollars on a boot and it doesn't fit right.

 

[rhendrix]

Funny someone mentioned the salomon quest 4d gtx, lathrop and sons sent me a pair in 12.5 and they fit like a dream. Now all that's left us to get some miles on them.

 

[AK Shane]

My big problem, along with fighting heel slip, is that most boot narrow to quickly along the outside pinky toe causing rub. So if I find a good heel fit then the outside narrows too soon, or the toe/forefoot fits good but the heel pocket sucks. To get the toe area to fit properly I usually have to size up, which causes a various other fit issues. I think I've tried on around 14 pair of boots in the last month or two. I'm so dang frustrated with boots.

 

[Slim Jim]

My big problem, along with fighting heel slip, is that most boot narrow to quickly along the outside pinky toe causing rub. So if I find a good heel fit then the outside narrows too soon, or the toe/forefoot fits good but the heel pocket sucks. To get the toe area to fit properly I usually have to size up, which causes a various other fit issues. I think I've tried on around 14 pair of boots in the last month or two. I'm so dang frustrated with boots.

I hear ya! Same thing with me. The only boot that I've had with a roomy toe box are the Solomon quest 4d but they don't have the ankle support I'd like.
Just got the scarpa triolets and pinky toes are cramped! All the reviews say how well the toe box fits being roomy. Not so much, I do not have wide feet or toes. I think that I might have fixed the problem though, I took a pair of my superfeet insoles and cut them back to the heel of the toes. Then I used my stationary belt sander and feathered them flat kind of like custom orthotics. MUCH roomier toe box now.

 

[BRobertson]

My big problem, along with fighting heel slip, is that most boot narrow to quickly along the outside pinky toe causing rub. So if I find a good heel fit then the outside narrows too soon, or the toe/forefoot fits good but the heel pocket sucks. To get the toe area to fit properly I usually have to size up, which causes a various other fit issues. I think I've tried on around 14 pair of boots in the last month or two. I'm so dang frustrated with boots.

I have the same frustrations!!!!

I have returned or sold 4 pair of boots in the last year!!! I need 12 or 12.5 in 4EEEE !!!
The only boots that I have ever had that fit properly are custom made WESTCO!! They are up to $750 + now!! I am probably going to order a pair soon.

Bob

 

[Kebler]

The way they show how to lace boots on rei video solved my left heel slip did 5 miles today no problem.

 

[AK Shane]

I hear ya! Same thing with me. The only boot that I've had with a roomy toe box are the Solomon quest 4d but they don't have the ankle support I'd like.
Just got the scarpa triolets and pinky toes are cramped! All the reviews say how well the toe box fits being roomy. Not so much, I do not have wide feet or toes. I think that I might have fixed the problem though, I took a pair of my superfeet insoles and cut them back to the heel of the toes. Then I used my stationary belt sander and feathered them flat kind of like custom orthotics. MUCH roomier toe box now.

I'm currently trying to replace my Scarpa Triolet's. They were OK on short hikes but blistered my pinky toes pretty bad on longer treks. They are actually good width wise except for the fact that they curve in way to sharp after the wide part if you forefoot. If your pinky toes are feeling cramped now it is only going to get worse when you get into some downhill, especially with a loaded pack.

I haven't even bothered to try on the Solomon Quest 4d boots. They are just way to soft for my intended purposes. Need something more rigid for sheep hunting. I took a pair of regular hiking style boots on a goat hunt one time and it took me a month to get one of my ankles feeling right again.

 

[Sboada]

I'm currently trying to replace my Scarpa Triolet's. They were OK on short hikes but blistered my pinky toes pretty bad on longer treks. They are actually good width wise except for the fact that they curve in way to sharp after the wide part if you forefoot. If your pinky toes are feeling cramped now it is only going to get worse when you get into some downhill, especially with a loaded pack.

I haven't even bothered to try on the Solomon Quest 4d boots. They are just way to soft for my intended purposes. Need something more rigid for sheep hunting. I took a pair of regular hiking style boots on a goat hunt one time and it took me a month to get one of my ankles feeling right again.

Look at Schnees. I was in the same boat until I picked up a pair of Beartooths last year. Many happy miles on them and they hold my heel rock solid with plenty of room to spread my toes.

And Schnees No Questions Lifetime warranty and Customer Service is tough to beat.

 

[MattB]

if your heel slips its simply the wrong boot. imop by trying to make a boot work with non stock footbeds your creating more issues. by adding footbeds of different thickness other than what the boot came with you are changing the way the heel cup/pocket was designed to hold a heel in place vertically. i believe it is a better option to find a boot that fits with stock footbeds thickness wise and go from there. to be honest i hate custom footbeds in anything other than my ski boots. i find the stock footbeds work best in my mountain boots.

To each his own, but I run the Lathrop footbeds in my Lowa Tibets and they fit perfectly, but with the stock footbeds I get heel slip. The heel cup is too "tall"
for me with the stock footbeds.

 

[rodney482]

Funny someone mentioned the salomon quest 4d gtx, lathrop and sons sent me a pair in 12.5 and they fit like a dream. Now all that's left us to get some miles on them.

Those are my go to boots!!!
Love them

 

[rhendrix]

So far I love them as well! I've had some blisters on my toes...but that's mostly from hiking in soaking wet socks in 95 degree weather in the tropical climate of Houston.

 

[Blockcaver]

I know the original poster got his boots, but here goes anyway. I have narrow heels and wider foot from the ball forward. The Cabelas Meindl Perfekt Hunter (and Hiker) boots work very well for me. My old Hunters are getting well worn from four serious seasons of use. This morning I put on my new pair for the first time and climbed the California Bighorn sheep mt behind my house, wearing a thin pair of dress socks. No blisters, and it was about 27 C, or over 80 degrees F when I got back. They are a decent boot, despite the claims you occasionally read about how the quality has slipped. In my view they are identical to when I started wearing them 15 or more years ago. During that time I have worn out 2.5 pairs. I just got back from a hard stone sheep hunt in the heat carrying a fairly heavy backpack and a lot of climbing and dropping down. The Perfekt Hunters work for me, just as they always do!