Gear List for surviving indefinitely, 75 Pound limit

[slim9300]

Gotcha, like I said we could argue this to death. More people more supplies bigger target. You will still have to venture out for a resupply. I am with you on the AR. I would also want a suppressor But that might be 76 pounds with all the ammo I am going to bring. It's a good thing it will all be in a Kifaru!

Lol. You are right. We will still be patrolling daily but doing what we can to avoid engagement. Lets hope our supplies last as long as projected.

 

[slim9300]

If animals don't survive it, we da*n sure wont!

Another uneducated comment. You just can't quit can you? (I know, pot calling the kettle black.)

 

[slim9300]

Why are we talking about taking game for food? Do animals survive an apocalypse? I think a weapon that is more equipped for fighting is what you would want (like an AR). I think you would be fighting a lot more than you would be shooting wabbits after an apacolypse.

Exactly.

 

[Ozz08]

True. I guess I was thinking underground bunkers and safe houses. I don't picture many deer building structurally sound underground shelters or those ark things they had in the movie "2012". Those are real you know.

 

[Hardstalk]

Is sara palin under 75 lbs? Im pretty sure she would fit nicely in a kifaru cargo chair and the two of us would be pretty unstoppable. She can talk her way out of being eaten by zombies and shoot as I run in the opposite direction. I see many benefits to having a sara pak. She could hold a red wagon full of ammo and dried moose as I tote her around on my back. Which she more than likely killed. Im sure she knows a hidden room or two in the oval office where we can hunker down if necessary. And if I do happen to take a bullet from a zombie or ryan avery. She can inturn pack me in the cargo chair, while I munch on moose jerky..

P.s. wtf is shtf?!

 

[colonel00]

Personally I took the OP to be far from where this thread spun. I saw the intent to be a question of what would you take to survive off the grid for an indefinite period of time. Be it a plane crash or being marooned or just going "Into the wild". Obviously your supplies are going to be vastly different if you are defending your person and property against civil unrest and mass chaos.

 

[Brock A]

P.s. wtf is shtf?!

Shit hits the fan

 

[Aron Snyder]

Pleas be nice everyone!

Ryan Avery and myself have both seen/survived shit hole 3rd world countries, and I would choose AR15/5.56 for this scenario!

You will need to shoot people....WITHOUT QUESTION! Hunger is going to be a problem, but you can usually find some sort of food (killing it yourself or scrounging it up).

I am a survival expert, have been through some of the toughest schools known to man and a 5.56 would be the choice of many in a "world ending" situation. If you were talking about surviving in the wild, a 22 would be a great choice.

 

[slim9300]

Personally I took the OP to be far from where this thread spun. I saw the intent to be a question of what would you take to survive off the grid for an indefinite period of time. Be it a plane crash or being marooned or just going "Into the wild". Obviously your supplies are going to be vastly different if you are defending your person and property against civil unrest and mass chaos.

If you were to load up your pack (specify) and head out of town (post-apocolypse) what would be in your ruck? What is YOUR gear list for survival with comfort? Obviously you would have to be able to take game, sleep and drink water. This is a solo mission (not with kids or wife).

He did say post apocalypse though.

 

[fillthefreezer]

I realize I am being a dick but it's only because I can't believe how naïve you are.

considering this for my new sig line

 

[slim9300]

considering this for my new sig line

I'm trying not to laugh. I am sorry Aron and Ryan.

I don't know if it's still there or not (can't see it with Tapatalk) but I have had the same sig line for about 10 years now on all the forums. "Work hard. Be happy. Annoy a liberal." I think this sums up my attitude quite nicely.

 

[Sam Millard]

AR with the can, Glock 19 with 22 upper/suppressed...for those "whites of their eyes" situations. Quite effective on chickens also

 

[Shrek]

I would look for a reliable weapon but my survival plan would have as one of its main features being avoiding confrontation. I would be heading strait to the most inhospitable , remote place I could reliably survive myself. Remote desert high mountain wilderness as far in as possible. Hunker down and move about as little as possible and cover your tracks and sign as much as possible. Let time winnow out the competition. Fighting and trying to take from others is a low survival odds plan in the long run. Weapons would be a ultralight single shot 22 to feed myself with and a 30-06 bolt rifle with scope for bigger game and targeted killing and a 9mm high capacity pistol for up close down and dirty situations. Disappearing is your best chance to survive long enough for things to stabilize again.

 

[Mckinnon]

Take you what you want, I am rocking my BB gun. To date I have slain exactly one animal with it, a squirrel with one shot to the eye ball, very realistic and repeatable shot for me on any animal.

 

[rodney482]

I dont know about you guys but I am getting the hell out of dodge.

I would head north and get as far away from people as possible.

Laugh all ya want but Im taking a .22 semi auto rifle with scope and a couple bricks of ammo.

Handgun with a few mags and some extra ammo. A quality knife from CQC.

 

[slim9300]

I dont know about you guys but I am getting the hell out of dodge.

I would head north and get as far away from people as possible.

Laugh all ya want but Im taking a .22 semi auto rifle with scope and a couple bricks of ammo.

Handgun with a few mags and some extra ammo. A quality knife from CQC.

What are you going to do with your family Rodney? I really believe you have the wrong idea unless you have a cabin or something to go to. Even then you would be the sole protector of your family and provider. Seems pretty risky to me. Plus, travel will be not only very difficult but incredibly dangerous and this could happen very quickly. If you have the means, I would think that you are better off having a trustworthy group of friends (ie. co-workers maybe ) and a somewhat defensible local location that you can all easily get to (obviously supplies are a must regardless). If you lived in an urban area I might agree, but you live in a darn good "town" right now to ride it out.

 

[Brodie]

My go to firearm would be my ruger 77/22 magnum. Able to carry lots of ammo, and would be able to take deer sized game no problem.
Water purification would come from a good pot set as sooner or later im going to run out of tabs and my filter will stop being effective.
For shelter I would be bringing a small saw and axe so I could make my own shelter, man made materials aren't going to last 24/7 long term IMO.
Small items like snare wire and fishing line/hooks would be essential (these items "hunt" for you 24/7)
My biggest concern would be winter months....living in a climate where it gets to -30*C (and colder) in the winter staying warm and finding food this time of year would be a serious challenge. May have to migrate
I agree with Daveinjax staying away from confrontation would be high on my list in a true SHTF, ideally I would slip far away from the chaos...
Check out Dick Proenneke for ideas....very impressive.
If you really think about long term survival it is a rather terrifying idea, we have become so disconnected that without a lot of necessity's we really would have a tough time LONG term. Things like gear breaking, clothing wearing out, injuries, illness.

 

[Mike7]

I think the odds of surviving long term in the woods without some serious supply caches is not good for the majority of us. Also, good luck hiding your nightly warming fire or bugout cabin/ranch unless you are very remote (as in no road to your place). And if you are not really remote and stealthy, then good luck protecting your supplies in place without enough manpower.

I can't forsee myself bugging out unless there is a toxic spill near my house on the freeway or railway, nuclear warheads are inbound to the nearby air base, there is a radiation cloud heading this way from a "man-caused" disaster in the Tri-Cities, or I'm just the only one of my neighbors to have some preparations (which I doubt because I've seen a few Eagle Glove & Anchor flags flying around the neighborhood).

I know that was not the initial thread question, but it seems that depending upon where you live and what kind of a disaster or unrest occurs and what part the gov't plays in it, "bugging out" in place at a stocked home in a neighborhood with like-minded people that can come together and provide added security, might be the best option?

In either case though, for a single versatile weapon that can do multiple duties, a compact .223 rifle with a suppressor would be hard to beat.

A book which I found interesting and thought provoking, and offers some practical advice is: "The Modern Survival Manual: Surviving the Economic Collapse" by Fernando "Ferfal" Aguirre

 

[thru-hunter]

Post apocalyptic world? AR 15 in 5.56 and a second upper in 7.62x39 with appropriate ammo 500-1000 rounds readily preferably with 10x that cached securely. This weapon would be a last resort for defense and a primary tool for big game harvest.

In reality setting up in an area of low tactical desirability and learning how to produce explosives and effectively use them would be key. The ability to deploy them in a manner that insure losses would supersede any gain an enemy would achieve through confrontation would be ideal.

Learning net and snare/trap construction and being able to fish passively would likely be the best consistent source of sustainable protein since it can be dried. Big game hunting would be a winter operation.

Learning to produce your own clothing is another key skill that almost no one has these days. It probably wouldn't be needed at first but unless you knock off Lathrop and Sons early on to stockpile a stash of Lowa Hunters you will probably need boots eventually.

 

[rodney482]

Thread said no family to deal with?

What are you going to do with your family Rodney? I really believe you have the wrong idea unless you have a cabin or something to go to. Even then you would be the sole protector of your family and provider. Seems pretty risky to me. Plus, travel will be not only very difficult but incredibly dangerous and this could happen very quickly. If you have the means, I would think that you are better off having a trustworthy group of friends (ie. co-workers maybe ) and a somewhat defensible local location that you can all easily get to (obviously supplies are a must regardless). If you lived in an urban area I might agree, but you live in a darn good "town" right now to ride it out.