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Does anybody have like 100 horses standing around that they don't want anymore?

Because the only way to "scientifically" settle this is to tie them up, shoot them with various bullets, and time how long it takes them to actually die.
You'll want to be close to make sure that shot placement is perfect every time, 50 yards should do it. Use downloaded ammo so the bullets are impacting at long range velocities. Come up with a Garmin to chronograph each shot as it impacts.

Bullets: TMK, FMJ, Mono, and something with a picture of an elk on the box
Calibers: .223, 6.5, and 30 should be enough spread. You don't need multiple rifles, just interpret the data as "This is like a 308 at X hundred yards which is the same as a 300 Mag at 200 yards past that"
That's 12 combinations of bullet and rifle.
Eight horses shot with each combination equals 96. Eight should be enough to be statistically significant, and leaves 4 horses to haul wagons to the glue factory.

How well do these things stick to fur?
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Nevada has thousands


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... you to go find out for yourself.

But at what cost? Some people have no business shooting large game with a light caliber.

Someone who reads 2,593 posts accompanied by 11,439 pictures of the same thing about about how great a .223 is on elk at 439 yds that doesn't have the experience to understand what goes into making a well placed shot will likely wound and lose rather than kill and retrieve...
 

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But at what cost? Some people have no business shooting large game with a light caliber.

Someone who reads 2,593 posts accompanied by 11,439 pictures of the same thing about about how great a .223 is on elk at 439 yds that doesn't have the experience to understand what goes into making a well placed shot will likely wound and lose rather than kill and retrieve...
So then what bullet and in what diameter, in your real life experience, would lead to "kill and retrieve" at 439 yards?
 

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But at what cost? Some people have no business shooting large game with a light caliber.

Someone who reads 2,593 posts accompanied by 11,439 pictures of the same thing about about how great a .223 is on elk at 439 yds that doesn't have the experience to understand what goes into making a well placed shot will likely wound and lose rather than kill and retrieve...

Should that person be encouraged to buy a case or two of .223 and practice? Or should they spend the same amount on 100 rds of of .398WHOMP?

Some people have no business shooting large game, with any caliber.
 
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Alright, I think Ryan and Form are behind this…

I was thinking the podcast was real, but then they were too obvious, trying too hard, and being too cliche… this was when I figured out it was a trick

“Jack” says “there is no replacement for displacement” the fuddiest cliche ever. I haven’t finished the podcast yet, but I fully expect JVB to disclose his buddy Jack’s last name as Meehoff

Funny, but I’m on to you guys…
 
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So then what bullet and in what diameter, in your real life experience, would lead to "kill and retrieve" at 439 yards?
I've had great luck with 300 short whizz bang and 300 regular whizz bang. I have witnessed many die by 300 ultra whizz bang, but never personally got one. Bergers, Barnes and eld X have all done the trick. Tbh tho, ive never shot one at exactly 439 tho.😜
 

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I've had great luck with 300 short whizz bang and 300 regular whizz bang. I have witnessed many die by 300 ultra whizz bang, but never personally got one. Bergers, Barnes and eld X have all done the trick. Tbh tho, ive never shot one at exactly 439 tho.😜
I think he was trying to make the ever tiring “more margin for error” fallacy argument, unless I read it wrong.
 
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