Form Problem

[Yelvi]

Form Problem (update: replied with added video)

Hey guys. So I have a form issue I was looking to get some help with. I live in Sitka AK and don't know too many trad archery guys that I could get some one on one advice from up here. Any input is welcome. I have a left handed 35 lbs Samick Sage that that I am shooting some 30" 3555 GT out of. When I draw to what feels like a good position with proper back tension my arrow hits right. When I draw slightly less than that my arrow hits dead center. I attached what the two different full draw positions look like in the photos below. The third photo are where those two different draw positions hit at 10 yards. I use a gap method of aiming and was inline with center when I released. Any advice on tuning? I am very consistent at that range and could group inside a coffee cup, so I don't think the problem is my release technique. Thanks for the help.

 

[Ryan K Sanpei]

Does your head/anchor alignment change with the two different draw lengths?

By looking at the arrow, it does look like you're drawing one a bit further, that will definitely affect tuning, which will affect arrow flight.

With the longer draw you would think it would nock right (given that you're a left hand archer) and fly left. What's the downrange flight like, with the longer draw do your arrows kick in flight? Do you paper tune or bareshaft tune?

But before tuning, you need to work on the form that's right for you. Once you get the form down, then you can work on tuning, then aiming.

If you have the time, try running a strip of tape straight down your target and make a conscious effort to use your arrow for you windage. With both "forms" sight down the arrow the same and see what happens.

Have you seen some of the info on my blog?

 

[recurve shooter]

The first thing I think you should do is get hold of your riser. When you try to shoot with an open hand your natural reaction on release is to grab the bow so it doesn't fly out of your hand. If you're going to shoot like that use a sling or finger stalls and curl your three lower fingers up and into your palm out of the way. Your index finger and thumb should circle and throat the bow riser while the other three lower fingers rest without pressure over the palm swell area. Second, any time you are hitting left or right with a properly tuned bow/arrow combination means that you weren't pushing the bow. ALWAYS push the bow at the spot you're trying to hit. Don't just hold it out and pull the string. Push/pull. Just an old guy's opinion. Hope it helps you

 

[Beendare]

Yeah, 2 good comments, you must be gripping and could be some torque. I'm a lefty and shoot right when;

The arrow is not perfectly under my eye.

i torque the bow

my arrows are too stiff

i pull away from my face [I do that a lot] instead of straight back

 

[Yelvi]

Thanks for all the reply's guys.

I kinda nailed it down to a combo of stiff arrows and pulling away from my face. I appreciate the help.

 

[elkstabber]

Just a general comment for you. You appear to have a very upright stance but you're shooting down. Your draw length will shorten if you're shooting down without bending at the waist. This messes up a lot of things - like your arrow's spine. The really good shooters that I know all practice a lot of bale shooting. That's when you stand 3-5' from the target on level ground and repeatedly practice their form and shooting. Shoot the arrow, pull it, repeat. You're building muscle memory. Then, when you shoot downward you keep the same shoulder position by bending at the waist. Good Luck!!!

 

[marc]

Yes your arrows are overspined. Is there a reason that you keep your thumb up? Some can shoot great like that but it does add a lot of tension in the hand and forarm. If you keep it down and wrapped behind your jaw you may get a cleaner release as well.

 

[Yelvi]

Thanks for all the advice guys. I just uploaded a video working on some of the form advice you gave. Any input is welcome. I have only been shooting archery for three or four months so still learning and going to take a step back from worrying about tuning and focus on form for a bit, as per others' advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGFyxuuEepA&feature=youtu.be