Fletching contact with my face

[rhendrix]

So I just switched over from blazer vanes to AAE max hunter vanes, after fletching some arrows and shooting some, I love the results. My only concern is that I have fletching contact with my fave on the shot, it's not terrible, I don't think it affects the arrow flight at all. But it's dang annoying. What's the fix here? Just move the vanes farther up the shaft? If I do that, does it affect arrow flight enough that I need to retune my bow?

Here's a pic for reference:

Kinda hard to see because of the stubble, but there's a little mark right below my lip and to the right.

 

[jmez]

Just move them up the shaft a little. Shouldn't affect flight at all. If they are marking your face that will affect the flight.

 

[Dameon]

Assuming your draw length is correct and anchor is solid, try rotating your nock so that the cock vane is pointed out away from your riser. This will put the least amount of fletching near your face. If this is already the case, then try moving the fletching up the shaft a bit. Sometimes an easy fix is all you need.


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[OR Archer]

If the fletch is contacting your face there I would suspect your draw length is a half inch long and that you are anchoring higher up your cheek. This is just speculation without seeing you shoot.

 

[rodney482]

^^^ lots of great advice

Also make sure you are not pulling the arrow in hard against your face.

 

[HuntCrazy]

If the fletch is contacting your face there I would suspect your draw length is a half inch long and that you are anchoring higher up your cheek. This is just speculation without seeing you shoot.

This....If you dont mind posting up a pic of you at full draw....might be more help....

 

[5MilesBack]

If the fletch is contacting your face there I would suspect your draw length is a half inch long and that you are anchoring higher up your cheek. This is just speculation without seeing you shoot.

^^^^^ Your fletching shouldn't be that far back on your face. If your fletching is that far back, your nock point is even further back than that.

 

[Neil B]

I was shooting max hunters for awhile. Great vane, but left very little clearance through my Pro V. Another option that has worked well for me (depending on your broadhead size) is a 4 fletch with Pro Max's. They are basically a 1.7" max hunter that is lower in profile. I get a decent helical with my Bitz. But I would also consider shortening draw length/moving vanes forward a touch.

 

[Dameon]

This....If you dont mind posting up a pic of you at full draw....might be more help....

I didn't want to say it, but that is my suspicion too. OP, if your leaning back at full draw or anchoring behind your ear, those are very good signs your draw length is set too long. If the your bow has rotating draw length modules, then it is an easy fix. If your bow has draw-length specific modules or cams, then a quick way to see if a shorter draw length will fix the issue is to roll up a some gauze or something similar so that it is 1/2 inch thick and tape it to the back side of the grip with a few wraps of athletic tape.

 

[rhendrix]

I'll get you guys a picture tomorrow. I've played around with my DL a lot lately, 28" feels too short, 28.5" feels a tad long. I'm still fine tuning my setup right now, and usually add 3 to 6 twists to my string which puts my draw around 28.25". I've yet to do that this far, but I don't think a 1/4" would make that big of a difference.

 

[rhendrix]

Well...I came home and switched the 28" mods out in order to take a pic and compare and wouldn't you know it, with the 28" mods I get less pin float, better alignment of my neck and shoulders, and no fletching contact.

My wife is out commission at the moment, but when I get a chance I'll take a picture of both and let you see the difference.

I've tried 28" mods on 3 different string sets and never been comfortable. All three have been at a measured 28", and so is this set, so why the difference all the sudden?

 

[rhendrix]

28" DL

28.5" DL

I still feel like the sweet spot for my DL right now is somewhere in the middle.

 

[Jeff Martin]

I agree with those that say move the fletching up. On John Dudley pod cast, he said after hours of countless testing, he gets better results with 1.5+ inches from NOC throat. I would try that...

 

[Dameon]

Does your Hoyt have side panels or the wood pro-fit grip. I can't tell from your pics. The draw length will measure 1/4 inch long with side panels if you don't adjust the harness. The factory DL is supposed to be measured from the wood pro-fit or rubber grip. If you like your grip and want a 28.25 inch DL, you need to decide if you want to long string the 28 mod or short string the 28.5 mod. For this you will need access to a press and draw board.

To long string, add two or three twists to the yoke and buss cables each. This will add a pound or two to your DW. To short string, twist up the string 3-4 twists and/or take a twist or two out of both cables. This will decrease DW. Either one will get you 28.25.


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[rhendrix]

I take the grip off actually.

 

[Dameon]

If your bow is in perfect tune, removing the grip would add 1/4 inch to your draw length. So you really are between sizes. If your arrows are not under spined and you are willing to add a pound or so to your draw length, I vote putting on the 28 inch mods and twisting both cables to gain you the extra 1/4 inch. That way you don't have to worry about your peep twisting.


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[rhendrix]

I guess in reality then I'm a 28.5" draw, I left the 28.5" mods on and twisted up the string like you recommended, it feels good and I'm still not getting fletching contact with my face, I think I'm going to move the fletching up a half inch though. Which would put me at that magical 1.5" mark that John Dudley talks about like was mentioned above.

 

[Dameon]

That will make your DL closer to 29 inches. I think your form would be better with the 28 inch mods. Also, the harness needs to settle after adjusting, so keep an eye out for that.


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[jmez]

DL looks long to me even at 28. You are leaning back, your head is leaned back and the nock is a long way behind your eye.

 

[rhendrix]

DL looks long to me even at 28. You are leaning back, your head is leaned back and the nock is a long way behind your eye.

I certainly don't feel like I'm leaning back, and I don't think my head is leaning either. I have to make a conscious effort not to lean my head forward with the draw set at 28" and it's a little more comfortable at 28.5".

I'm gonna work on my anchor and change up my loop length (not sure if I need to go shorter or longer) and see if that doesn't change where the nock is in relation to my mouth and eye. I'm so used to anchoring with my first knuckle behind my ear that it's a hard habit to break. I'll post something up tomorrow, I appreciate all the feed back.