Fix Our Forests Act

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Any foresters or similar subject matter experts on here with opinions on this? Obviously fire management is super important these days, but with the trend of politicians trying to set up resource grabs for their corporate buddies disguised as conservation or safety, it's hard not to be skeptical.

 
Any foresters or similar subject matter experts on here with opinions on this? Obviously fire management is super important these days, but with the trend of politicians trying to set up resource grabs for their corporate buddies disguised as conservation or safety, it's hard not to be skeptical.

I’m not a forester but a couple of my friends are. I’m familiar with the process that the FS has to go through before they can authorize a timber sale and this is clearly a shortcut to an easy resource grab as you mentioned. The “ Fix our Forests” part has as little to do with fixing our forests as the Patriot Act has to do with patriotism.

The act is not intended to change how we manage forests, which have been mismanaged since the inception of the USFS, by their own admission. It only reduces the amount of due diligence that the FS is required to do before a sale gets approved. If you’re a logger this is probably great news. If on the other hand, you’re someone who wants to see forests managed properly it’s a step in the wrong direction IMO.
 
If it’s a government program it is generally lip service for the citizens and a money grab for politicians and their donors!

There are likely areas where any timber cut may well be good?

Back in the 80s Cali was a top timber producer, now they import most of it from Oregon up to BC I believe.

California fire issues are a whole other can of worms!!!


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I think another concern that comes with this is that more roads means more probability of resource extraction through mining. This then leads to damaged water tables, fish loss, vehicle noise, and release of heavy metals into the environment. Not a fan.
 
In my neck of the woods- where there are no large roadless areas besides designated wilderness- anything that increases thinning and burning has my support. I recognize that it’s more complicated than that out west though
 
In my neck of the woods- where there are no large roadless areas besides designated wilderness- anything that increases thinning and burning has my support. I recognize that it’s more complicated than that out west though

Heard that. Everyone I know who is familiar with this says it's right out of Mike Lee's playbook to privatize (extract resources from and sell once depleted) public lands.
 
I worked for the federal government for over 30 years and am very familiar with the NEPA process. While this is a systematic way of reviewing government projects, the definition of "environmental impacts" can be interpreted very broadly. Think about the spotted owl and how that one bird was used to stop forestry for decades in a large section of the country. More flexibility is definitely needed to make badly needed improvements to dying and overgrown forests. This might force some left coast states to finally improve forestry management.
 
I’m not a forester but a couple of my friends are. I’m familiar with the process that the FS has to go through before they can authorize a timber sale and this is clearly a shortcut to an easy resource grab as you mentioned. The “ Fix our Forests” part has as little to do with fixing our forests as the Patriot Act has to do with patriotism.

The act is not intended to change how we manage forests, which have been mismanaged since the inception of the USFS, by their own admission. It only reduces the amount of due diligence that the FS is required to do before a sale gets approved. If you’re a logger this is probably great news. If on the other hand, you’re someone who wants to see forests managed properly it’s a step in the wrong direction IMO.
Then, exactly what would be a move in the right direction?
 
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