Wow, cherry picking which posts you reply to as well, I see
Who is trying to introduce more domestic dogs? Seems to be a bit of a red herring to divert the discussion from wolves to domestic dogs. Are you saying cattle loss is not a valid concern with wolf reintroduction? Do you support wolf reintroduction in Colorado? Since you fashion yourself a follower of science, do you endorse ballot box biology in places like Colorado?
Not where I live in Idaho. I’m a long time hound hunter and I actually feel we should lessen our take of lions. 2 cat areas and hound seasons run till end of June. That’s too much pressure on lions. In the 90’s it was easy to cut a lion track to run that’s not the case anymore. Funny thing is I found way more bears and lions in the 90’s and the elk herds were as good as I can ever remember. Today I observe way less cats and bears but way less elk. What’s the X factor? I see and have seen way more wolve tracks for last 15 years while looking for lions. I saw and read the idfg report showing lions in Cda river taking more elk. Frankly it’s not very believable since 90 percent of the lion kills I have found have been deer. That’s decades of on the ground observation. I can only say in my pocket of Idaho the elk decline happened after WOLVES showed up in larger numbers.
State agencies are allowed to manage those... But I do agree, they do make a significant impact.
NO problem with reintroduction really...There just has to be an actual end date and plan for management. Once they are met game on. The way it gets tied up in court is total B.S. after management objectives are blown out of the water. CO will have zero intent to properly manage...look at the Black Bear population. Now imagine that with the polarization of wolves
I know it happens, more so with deer than elk or moose. I would still wager wolves kill more nationally that domestic dogs.
Here you go -
State agencies manage wolves too.
What exactly is the "threat" you refer to?
I can unequivocally say... for myself... yup! im a selfish hunter. I had a long debate with myself when i voted on the subject... sure i think it might be cool to see a pack of wolves when im out hunting... sure i get that they have a place in the ecosystem.... all of that.... and then at the end of the day i decided i was a selfish hunter. Ashamed? nah. I get both sides of the argument and at the end of the day i just voted for number 1 in my world. I'll just learn to hunt with the wolves and find the elk since it didnt go my way, heck maybe ill run across a pack and decide it was the best experience ive ever had.... trying to be optimistic.
I appreciate that honest answer. Nothing wrong with that IMO.
Or mismanage them. How is Washington and Oregon doing with wolf management? The term management varies greatly with the politics of each state. Look up Washington wolf plan and tell me how are they managing wolves? They need more wolves and so called breeding pairs than wy, Mt, id combined before they can even think about hunter management of wolves. I can see this exact scenario play out in Colorado with the abundance of what I would call greenies moving in or already there.
