First time out west advice wanted

[bummer7580]

fatlander said a lot -ya dont know what you dont know. and no amount of talking or reading will convey it.
i have taken a few guys on their first trip and talked for hours to prepare them and every time i heard "you said it would be hard, but you never said it would be this hard"

Isn't it the truth. It seems like the first time flatlanders are in awe of the size and difficulty of the mountains. They either learn to love them or they never come back.