Seriously!I'm guessing they think the wolves didnt do enough damage to the elk and deer populations so lets see what grizzlies will do to help
Selkirk range might be the highest in Washington but is no where near the top of the highest densities in the lower 48 for grizzly bears. Selkirk range is estimated at around 60 grizzly bears split between Canada and the us I believeI grew up less than two miles from a problem grizzly release site near Nordman, Idaho and lived most of my life in the Selkirk range, which has one of the highest densities of of grizzlies in the lower 48. I’ve had one in my camp at night (which we scared off just yelling at it), but NEVER had a problem with one. Black bears however, I’ve had plenty of problems, especially wherever the real problem is - high densities of those nearly hairless bears that walk on two legs.
This states commission couldn't effectively manage a lemonade stand. We are in the top tier of states for highest black bear densities per capita, and they voted against season setting for the spring bear special draw hunt because a bunch of uneducated, bleeding heart, appointed degenerates decided revenue from anti groups was more important than effective management. If you're not a Washington resident that has personally witnessed the downfall of our ungulate populations as a result of piss poor liberal management decisions, I kindly ask that you keep that support to yourself.Would all those ideals come to pass upon reintroduction in Washington? I don't know. Given what I know at the moment, I am supportive of a reintroduction effort, despite the challenges it poses.
Its a risk you run when you bring them into the woods. Just like when you strap them into a car.
Our ancestors would laugh at how afraid we have become. At the same time, we're more deadly than we've ever been. What a strange paradox. If the indians lived in North America for thousands of years with only a bow and arrow, certainly we can do it now. And a lot of the really terrifying stuff they had to deal with has gone extinct.
I hear your point, buy our ancestors never had to worry about shooting a bear, for any reason. Not the case with esa protection.
I doubt they even tried to shoot them unless an attack was in progress.
Really? Ever thought why Grizzlies currently inhabit a fraction of their historic range? People killed them. Probably because they were smart enough to know they killed people and livestock.
Oh and they didn't have to worry about hefty fines or jail time.
My point is you make the case "Our ancestors would laugh at how afraid we have become"......I think they'd laugh at the protection given to apex predators.
I don't have any veins popping out. I apologize if you feel as if this discussion upsets me. It doesn't. I'm not trying to be abrasive.Did you read the sentence right after the one you quoted? Or did you just stop there and started typing a reply while the veins were popping out of your forehead?
I don't have any veins popping out. I apologize if you feel as if this discussion upsets me. It doesn't. I'm not trying to be abrasive.
No need to be condescending.
But to reiterate, since we're talking ancestors and all...I think they'd laugh at the protection given to apex predators.
"Really?" Is what upset you? I apologize for that, it wasn't my intention.I think when you posted "Really?" condescending replies entered the chat.
Regardless, given the fact that our ancestors nearly hunted about every BG species and some of the birds to near extinction by the early 1900's, they would probably laugh at the protection given to any wildlife.